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Pixel Perfect - 1080p vs. 480p

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How did you get audio from the iScan HD+ if it was plugged into the SLG3000 via VGA?

You don't even need to plug the audion into the iScan HD+ if you don't want to. I'm not sure what your setup is like, but it should look something like this:

XBOX > YUV (Component) Output, 480p ---> DVDO iScan HD+ > VGA Output ---> SLG3000 > VGA Output ---> TV
XBOX > R/L Audio or Optical Audio ---> TV

Also, did you find that this scaler introduced much lag?

No, I never noticed lag. It wasn't perfectly sharp picture-wise, but with the SLG3000 it looked quite good. Also, it was very close to a real CRT 'look' so if you want authenticity, this is a great setup. Its also not very expensive compared to other options like the XRGB Mini, which would set you back around $400.

In case you don't know about, here is Fudoh's site which goes into all of this: http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

Good luck!

Edited by PhilExile, 21 July 2012 - 01:11 AM.


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Thanks mate, appreciate your work and comments. Fairly sure I've seen you on Emuxtras.

When you say "You don't even need to plug the audion into the iScan HD+ if you don't want to" isn't it actually impossible as the unit doesn't have analogue audio in?

The combo will cost me about 300US as the shipping is high. I don't need the mini as I'm happy with the emulation on Xbox and Wii. Also, the mini has limited inputs and the scanlines is hit and miss.

The iScan is merely a way for me to get VGA out. As a bonus, it will take my N64 and Saturn over svideo.

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When you say "You don't even need to plug the audion into the iScan HD+ if you don't want to" isn't it actually impossible as the unit doesn't have analogue audio in?


The DVDO iScan HD+ has digital inputs - coaxial and optical. The Xbox is capable of outputing both of these formats.

The combo will cost me about 300US as the shipping is high. I don't need the mini as I'm happy with the emulation on Xbox and Wii.


It sounds like you're paying too much then. I just looked up the iScan HD+ on eBay and it typically sells for between $100 and $125. I think the SLG3000 is about $60. With shipping you shouldn't be too much above $200.

Also, the mini has limited inputs.


How so? It has YUV, RGB, composite, and s-video. The only input missing is VGA and you can get a transcoder for that if needed - though the only thing I can imagine you'd need it for would be Dreamcast.

and the scanlines is hit and miss.


Not that I know of? What are you talking about? The Mini has applied scanlines to all the retro machines I've thrown at it.

The iScan is merely a way for me to get VGA out.


You could also get a YUV to VGA transcoder. I actually have a good one from Startech that you could use with the SLG3000. See below:

http://www.startech....rter~VGA2TV2WAY

If you want it, I'd sell it to you for $50. I no longer need it and its just collecting dust. :-)

As a bonus, it will take my N64 and Saturn over svideo.


Tsk, tsk. For the Saturn, you should be using SCART cables! For the N64, you can do a RGB (SCART) mod which will improve picture quality immensely. See links below:

SATURN: http://www.retro-acc...del-Saturn.html

N64: http://www.gamesx.co...badd/rgbn64.htm

The N64 is a bit harder and, alternatively, you can also install an amp for better picture quality. Ask around at the System 11 Shmups forum.

Edited by PhilExile, 23 July 2012 - 07:07 PM.


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I'll be using a Wii aswell which, sadly, lacks digital audio out. As does the Saturn and N64 so another solution is required anyway.


USD111 equivalent for the iScan HD+. The SLG 3000 with case is USD equivalent 78 so USD189 total. Shipping is a bitch to Singapore (USD 60 for the iScan HD+).

Limited inpus. One component. One s-video. I know I can hook up switches, but for that price why should I need to. Dreamcast via VGA without transcoder is also preferable.

Scanlines on the FM Never looked right to me. Much prefer the SLG3000.

I would use a transcoder but I need to hook up two component devices and can't be assed adding switch boxes / getting up to change the cables.

S-Video with scanlines is fine in my eyes. I never saw much difference when using N64 and Saturn.

Edited by wizball1973, 24 July 2012 - 03:37 PM.


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Well, go for it then. The DVDO iScan HD+/SLG3000 is a very good combo! Enjoy!




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