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Neo Geo Graphics kawaks 1.4x->1.5x issue?


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For the longest time now, i've been using Kawaks 1.45 and 1.46 because of my lack of motivation to update anything... (i'm still on mozilla firebird now actually <_< )

 

Anyway, I finally decided to download kawaks 1.54 and 1.55 and the first thing i noticed was that My neo geo games wouldn't show up...

 

I assumed it was due to an update in the bios... (as it has happened before) so I grabbed that too,

 

Now there's another issue, About half of my neo-geo Roms have Glitchy graphics while playing on the 1.5x versions of kawaks but are fine in the 1.4x

 

Is it due to a bad copy of the bios?, or an update to the rom?

 

and does this mean I have to Re-download all the neogeo roms that don't work with the new version?

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The most likely answer is that the sets have changed over time. Not all, but some have. Depends on how old your emulator actually was before you decided to download a more recent copy.

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I don't believe that explains what's happening, because the games still run, It's just the graphics seem corrupt, if you can make out the positions the games are also still playable.

 

also, I am sure the rom is fine because, again, The older version of the emulator runs the roms with no problem.

 

the reason why i believe that it doesn't explain what's happening is because if the drivers were updated because the romsets have changed the CRCs of the old romset wouldn't match and would not be allowed run by the emulator.

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Kawaks is quite strict about CRC's, so yes, you would get an error if you had the wrong roms.

 

But on the other hand, I had no problems at all with the graphics on 1.54 or 1.55

 

Can you tell us some system specs, and some games which are affected and in what way? (what do we look for to see the problem).

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I have no idea what specs are relevant... but...

 

Intel Celeron 1.8 Ghz

ATI RADEON 8500

on Windows XP

 

Quite a few games... The only ones i can remember right now are

Aero Fighters 3 and

Samurai Shodown 3 and 4

 

The graphics look jumbled I can't describe it better than that.

 

uhmn... Text is fine, sprites and images are not.

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Those 3 work fine for me. Make sure you've got these roms

 

aof3 4194304 f17b8d89 096-c1.bin

aof3 4194304 3840c508 096-c2.bin

aof3 4194304 55f9ee1e 096-c3.bin

aof3 4194304 585b7e47 096-c4.bin

aof3 4194304 c75a753c 096-c5.bin

aof3 4194304 9a9d2f7a 096-c6.bin

aof3 2097152 51bd8ab2 096-c7.bin

aof3 2097152 9a34f99c 096-c8.bin

aof3 131072 cb07b659 096-m1.bin

aof3 1048576 9edb420d 096-p1.bin

aof3 2097152 4d5a2602 096-p2.bin

aof3 131072 cc7fd344 096-s1.bin

aof3 2097152 e2c32074 096-v1.bin

aof3 2097152 a290eee7 096-v2.bin

aof3 2097152 199d12ea 096-v3.bin

 

samsho3 4194304 07a233bc 087-c1.bin

samsho3 4194304 7a413592 087-c2.bin

samsho3 4194304 8b793796 087-c3.bin

samsho3 4194304 728fbf11 087-c4.bin

samsho3 4194304 172ab180 087-c5.bin

samsho3 4194304 002ff8f3 087-c6.bin

samsho3 1048576 ae450e3d 087-c7.bin

samsho3 1048576 a9e82717 087-c8.bin

samsho3 131072 8e6440eb 087-m1.bin

samsho3 1048576 282a336e 087-p1.bin

samsho3 2097152 9bbe27e0 087-p2.bin

samsho3 131072 74ec7d9f 087-s1.bin

samsho3 4194304 84bdd9a0 087-v1.bin

samsho3 2097152 ac0f261a 087-v2.bin

 

samsho4 4194304 68f2ed95 222-c1.bin

samsho4 4194304 a6e9aff0 222-c2.bin

samsho4 4194304 c91b40f4 222-c3.bin

samsho4 4194304 359510a4 222-c4.bin

samsho4 4194304 9cfbb22d 222-c5.bin

samsho4 4194304 685efc32 222-c6.bin

samsho4 4194304 d0f86f0d 222-c7.bin

samsho4 4194304 adfc50e3 222-c8.bin

samsho4 131072 7615bc1b 222-m1.bin

samsho4 1048576 1a5cb56d 222-p1.bin

samsho4 4194304 b023cd8b 222-p2.bin

samsho4 131072 8d3d3bf9 222-s1.bin

samsho4 4194304 7d6ba95f 222-v1.bin

samsho4 4194304 6c33bb5d 222-v2.bin

samsho4 2097152 831ea8c0 222-v3.bin

 

The CRC32 codes are the important thing to check.

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Kawaks is quite strict about CRC's, so yes, you would get an error if you had the wrong roms.

 

But on the other hand, I had no problems at all with the graphics on 1.54 or 1.55

 

Can you tell us some system specs, and some games which are affected and in what way? (what do we look for to see the problem).

 

 

kawaks will still run a rom even if the crc is wrong.

 

I suggest he gets the latest dat for kawaks 1.55 and use Romcenter or clrMame to comfrim that his roms are correct.

 

Bad GFX in most cases means bad roms with kawaks.

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i believe he may have the the old winkawaks type roms i remember some time ago winkawaks changed to match mame he could check his crc's and apply patches at micmano.net instead of redownloading his roms

 

 

 

Micmano.net is in french i believe, I cannot read french and therefore am having trouble finding the patches mentioned nor can I follow the instructions (if existant) to patch them.

 

could you post specifically what to click, or possibly a translation?

sometimes auto-translators are do-able... not this time though.

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