Bobba_fat Posted September 25, 2005 Author Posted September 25, 2005 Nero can burn BIN and ISO files as long as the cue information is correct. For other formats, you need other programs, unless you use virtual drive and use Disc-to-Disc copy. I honestly don't know what you mean when you say that they PS can't read the ISO format. Most CD filesystems are based on the ISO9660 standard.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> So what you are saying is that if you burn the disc as a data cd and in iso the ps can read it. (thanks 4 taking your time to explain i'm a real newbie to all this hehe )
Agozer Posted September 25, 2005 Posted September 25, 2005 So what you are saying is that if you burn the disc as a data cd and in iso the ps can read it.Yes. That's the gist of it basically. Of course, if the games has separeate CDDA tracks (audio is on a totally different track and not in the game data), you'd burn the games as a Mixed CD (Data+Audio). However, sometimes it's not that simple because some PSX games have all kinds of protections (dummy files, subchannel data, corrupt/weak sectors, etc.). The real problem is that even if "advanced" burning programs such as CloneCD that support PSX CD formats, the CD burner you have might not be able to read/write these oddities. So, often times, just burning the disc won't do, and you have to start hunting for programs that alter the data before you burn it (they aren't hard to find though, a lot of sites have PSX backup fixes; PAL/NTSC switches/converters, trainers, protection removing and so on and so forth).
Shibathedog Posted September 25, 2005 Posted September 25, 2005 yeah but the first time i read what you said it sounded like you where going to burn a data CD with an ISO file in it DO NOT DO THIS
Bobba_fat Posted September 25, 2005 Author Posted September 25, 2005 yeah but the first time i read what you said it sounded like you where going to burn a data CD with an ISO file in it DO NOT DO THIS<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly what was my thought & thx for the warning haha but i think im getting it...
Bobba_fat Posted September 25, 2005 Author Posted September 25, 2005 So what you are saying is that if you burn the disc as a data cd and in iso the ps can read it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes. That's the gist of it basically. Of course, if the games has separeate CDDA tracks (audio is on a totally different track and not in the game data), you'd burn the games as a Mixed CD (Data+Audio). However, sometimes it's not that simple because some PSX games have all kinds of protections (dummy files, subchannel data, corrupt/weak sectors, etc.). The real problem is that even if "advanced" burning programs such as CloneCD that support PSX CD formats, the CD burner you have might not be able to read/write these oddities. So, often times, just burning the disc won't do, and you have to start hunting for programs that alter the data before you burn it (they aren't hard to find though, a lot of sites have PSX backup fixes; PAL/NTSC switches/converters, trainers, protection removing and so on and so forth).<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thx, ok now nobody has my answered my (original Question yet) so i guess you are my best help so far, so, plz look at my topics from before and see if you can give me any help on the subject of burning the files i have mentioned earlier step by step i have clonecd Exactly how do i burn them!? i just highlight the iso file and burn it as a mixed cd and clonecd will handle the rest!? Thx a million it almost feels as if buying the game would be better but i am a man who thinks burning the game is half the challenge like a good RPG
Madman Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) Launch Nero, start a new project. Doesnt matter what. You can also cancel the wizard popping up when you launch Nero.Then in Menu "Recorder" choose "burn Image". Choose the.iso file. Insert CDR. Hit burn. Wait. Done. Nero should identify the right ISO - format usually, unless its a non-standard-iso. But for PSX Alcohol120% should work better, it has settings for PSX games built in Edited September 26, 2005 by Madman
Bobba_fat Posted September 27, 2005 Author Posted September 27, 2005 But for PSX Alcohol120% should work better, it has settings for PSX games built in<{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok i've got a version of alcohol120 1.4.3. build if its easier the tell me a step by step and ill try that instead now i'm canna try the the other method you told me with nero but the alcohol version would be very much appreciated 2. (p.s. ok call me "¤!"# but i'm still not getting one small thing, when i burn the image as a.iso is the psx able to read it!??? i'm sorry but i guess its just 2 new for me ) (p.p.s. if the psx can read the.iso then how come the pc needs a tool such as daemon tools to run.iso files!? just out of curiosity)
Agozer Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 A slight correction: The Playstation doesn't read ISOs. It reads PSX data and audio from a CD. Daemon Tools simulates a CD drive that uses CD images as a medium (since, you know, a virtual drive is virtual and you can't put physucal media in it. When talking about PSX emulators, they recognize ISOs as a CD, since either a) emulators like ePSXe have a built-in CD image loader that makes an image act as physical media, or you make ePSXe use the virtual drive created by DT as it's CD drive. Again, software emulates hardware in this case as well. CD/DVD images are just that, a single file that contains all the data (image) of a particular CD/DVD. No hardware can read CD/DVD images, just plain CDs/DVDs that were created from CD images.
Bobba_fat Posted September 27, 2005 Author Posted September 27, 2005 Launch Nero, start a new project. Doesnt matter what. You can also cancel the wizard popping up when you launch Nero.Then in Menu "Recorder" choose "burn Image". Choose the.iso file. Insert CDR. Hit burn. Wait. Done. Nero should identify the right ISO - format usually, unless its a non-standard-iso. But for PSX Alcohol120% should work better, it has settings for PSX games built in<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok i did what you said. But at the burn "folder" i have several options determine maximum speedsimulationwritefinallize cd (no further writing is possible on/off!?) Speed (which should obviously be at 4x or so)write method Disc at once option or Disc at once option/96 (which means what and whic one should i choose!?) Buffer underrun on/off!??? It says its gonna burn it as a cd-image is that the way!? (god i feel lost )
Bobba_fat Posted September 28, 2005 Author Posted September 28, 2005 Cool i see what you mean about the playstation option in alcohol 120Really nice so it automatically makes the.iso psx "image" or whatever its called very nice i have never used alcohol 120 since it seems 2 hard 2 use but if anyone could give a GOOD tep by step im willing to try I am thinking about writing a faq 4 others so that they dont have to have same headache... lol
Shibathedog Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 Alcohol 120% is one of my favorite burning programs ever, in fact it IS my favorite burning program, (Unless i want to create a CD, because you cant, they really need to add that ) The only thing is with the pretty much 100% error-proof burning, it limits your burn speed soooooo much...It would limit my 48X CD burner down to like 16X While burning CDs, and it limits my 16X DVD burner to 2.5X while burning DVDs. Thats why sometimes i just use DiscJuggler, which is also one of my favorites, but i dont like to reccomend it to most people because its complicating and its GUI can be really intimidating
Bobba_fat Posted September 29, 2005 Author Posted September 29, 2005 Ok guys i did it thriu alcohol 120 and it worked almost. JAYYYYYY But... i think the playstation i borrowed from my friend the "disc reader(?)" it makes the game a bit unstable but it worekd throug opening screen and i almost started a game THX to everyone who helped me open my mind a little bit
Madman Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 Burn at slower speed. May solve unreadable discs probs in your PSX. Something generel fyi: an.ISO is like a picture taken from the entire disk in file-format. When you burn it and open it in explorer, you should see some stuff on the disk. If you burned a DATA CD and dragged and dropped the image on it, and you see filename.iso on your disc in windows xplorer, it wont work in your PSX. I know some people have probs getting the difference.
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