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Regardless of whether this ROM exists or not. I'm still going to stick with the CRCs listed in JB's DATs. That way at least I know my source is reliable.
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do the two mslug4 bootlegs run fine without the correct v roms?
I think you must be referring to the note in the DATs that says 'correct V ROMs not yet known'.
The ones being used currently are just the original mslug4 V ROMs decrypted and split into 4. So yes the sound works fine in both these sets.
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FBA-XXX Pro v1.08a
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I've just had it confirmed that the decrypted M ROMs added to the v1.08 build were not publicly available dumps. It seems I was misinformed and therefore have released this fixed build which restores these ROMs to their previous CRCs.
Apologies for any confusion this mistake may have caused.
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The source I got those CRCs from stated that they were all publically available.
However, it's now starting to look as though that may not be the case. I'll confirm this for sure today and if necessary will release a fixed build very shortly.
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FBA-XXX Pro v1.08
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- Updated decrypted M ROMs to most recent versions.
- Re-added mslug5 encrypted M ROM. (a fake is now available with the correct CRC. This should suffice until the real one is released)
- The following sets have been added:
kf10thua
kf97plsa
kf2k4spl
- And the following PD games:
Frog Feast
Jonas Indiana and the Temple of Ra
- Fixed AES mode in nitd/nitdd
- Some other minor updates and corrections.
- Re-added the ROMlist counter by request and updated default skin to incorporate this.
- Fixed some irregularities in the DATs.
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But now kf2k2mp.zip and kf2k2mp2.zip dont' work...In v1.06 graphic was corrupted,but now it says that 2k2-c1.bin.....2k2-c8.bin and 2k2-v1.bin and 2k2-v2.bin are missing!! Why? I try to rename those file from kof2002.zip (in this rom they are named with 265-c1.bin and so on) and add them to kf2k2mp.zip and kf2k2mp2.zip, but now the file aren't missing,but they have different CRC.
The ROMs have changed. You need the new ROMs.
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-t- is there any chance of having fbaxxx pro save under it's own file on e drive instead of sharing with older fbaxxx? i still have fbaxxx 08-26-05 & fbaxxx pr and don't wish to delete them yet. do these interfear with each other?
also, any chance of adding the number of roms on the each menu screens similar to the 08-26-05 version.
I think it's a bit late in the day to change FBA-XXX Pro's default save directory. It would be a massive headache for people that have existing savegames and such. You can however change the default directory yourself by opening the default.xbe in a hex editor, searching for the values 04 05 FF FF, and changing them to whatever you like. The new save folder will have the same name as these values but in reverse (ffff0504 in the example above).
As for the ROM counter. I removed it to cut down clutter because I couldn't see the point of it. But since some people such as yourself obviously use it for something I'll re-add it in the next build.
+T+, did any of that info on the mvsc bug help, or would you like me to post code snippets from the MAME source?I did take a look at the MAME source as you indicated in your post. But I really have no idea how that code would fit into into FBA's CPS sprite rendering routines. I'm afraid it would need to be FBA code to be of any use.
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Yes. Sorry about that. Just a typo.
I've re-uploaded the package with this error corrected so please re-download if you downloaded the old one.
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FBA-XXX Pro v1.07
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- Updated supported bootleg sets based on the latest information. (thanks to Ferchogtx)
- The following sets have been added:
ms4boot
ms5boot
kof2k1bl
kf2k1pls
kf2k1pla
kf2k2spr
kf2k2plb
kf2k3exa
- No more corrupted graphics in ms4plus, ms5plus, kf2k2mp, and kf2k2mp2.
- Removed unobtainable mslug5 M ROM. (game runs fine without it)
- Added encrypted M ROMs to decrypted C sets. (this is correct for these sets since ideally only the C ROMs should be decrypted)
Enjoy!
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This thread feels a little off track at the moment. +T+ is there any chance the bootlegs will work with the encypted c roms?
iq has informed me that real bootleg boards do not use SNK encrypted C ROMs. So all bootleg sets should have their own C ROMs. A confirmed list of these was recently posted over at the RS forums so expect some changes to several of the bootleg sets in the next build (as well as some new additions).
This also means that the graphics corruption should no longer be an issue since the true bootleg C ROMs do not require the same kind of decryption or S ROM extraction.
All being well, the new build should be ready in the next day or so.
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v0.2.95.23 is the PC version.
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+T+ so the last few builds were using the decrypted c roms (such as the C's from Mslug4d). I think thats what you mean. Because in the latest dat its borrowing the C's from the main set(mslug4)
Yes, up until v1.05 ms4plus and ms5plus were using decrypted C ROMs. But it's more correct to use encrypted ones because that's how they are on the actual board.
I think what I might do once this bug is fixed is add decrypted and fully decrypted sets for any bootlegs that use the parent set's encrypted C ROMs so users that want to play them don't have to put up with the load times and filesizes if they don't want to.
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+T+ just curios how does this happen to certain games when you add some sets and fix small bugs?
This particular problem is due to the addition of the MAME sets. Some of the bootlegs added to MAME are unlike any of the sets that have been supported by FBA-XXX Pro previously in that they use encrypted C ROMs as well as a seperate S ROM.
To be more specific, sets that have encrypted C ROMs usually do not need an S ROM since the text layer data is contained in the C ROMs and is extracted as part of the decryption process. However when you try to load a seperate S ROM as well as decrypting the C ROMs it seems to cause a conflict which is why you get the graphics corruption you see on the screen.
So there are two possible solutions. 1) Go back to using decrypted C ROMs for the affected bootleg sets (easy to do) or 2) find a way of decrypting the C ROMs that does not cause conflict with the custom S ROM (no chance without help from iq).
Will keep you posted as things progress.
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Did this show up on previous builds of pro or just 1.06, i might have to go back to 1.01
Don't bother. I'm hoping to have a fixed build out soon. However the kf2k3upl problem doesn't look like a driver issue. Thraxen, do you know if it does the same thing in MAME?
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encrypted is the romset with encrypted p and c roms and are most likely to be the parent roms for neogeo sake.
non encrypted is the p rom thats decrtpted while c roms remain encrypted.
decrypted is the romset's c roms decrypted while p roms are encrypted.
fully decrypted is the p and c roms in a the romset being decrypted.
That is absolutely right. But if I may expand on that a little for anyone who is interested:
Encrypted sets contain all encrypted ROMs (P, C, M, V). They are the most accurate in terms of how the data is on the actual board. However the decryption process often causes long loading times and encrypted C ROMs do not compress well so the sets can have a very large filesize. Encrypted sets also use a decrypted M ROM due to the fact that M ROM decryption routines are not yet support by any emulator.
Non-encrypted sets have encrypted graphics and sound (C, M, V) ROMs but decrypted program (P) ROMs. The only non-encrypted sets supported by FBA-XXX Pro are those that exist in MAME which also exist as actual boards.
Decrypted sets contain all encrypted ROMs with the exception of the graphics © ROMs and M ROM. These sets are included to allow users to have mostly accurate sets without the long load times and large filesizes of their fully encrypted counterparts. Decrypted sets also contain an S ROM for text layer data.
Fully decrypted sets contain all decrypted ROMs (P, C, M, V and an S). Technically these are the least accurate but require no special driver routines to run hence they load much faster. Filesize is comparable to decrypted sets.
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Wow that clears that up, +T+ i thought you were trying to match Mame sets the whole time. I was losing my mind trying to figure what the hell was going on
Yeah I've always been in two minds about this. On the one hand it would be great to have FBA-XXX Pro support exactly the same sets as MAME since most other PC emus do and it creates a set standard for ROMsets that means any downloaded set will work straight-out-of-the-box on any emulator, Xbox or PC.
But on the other hand, the whole point of FBA-XXX Pro has always been to use the most accurate ROM dumps so that collectors (like myself) have a platform on which to actually play the sets they've spent alot of time putting together and getting right.
It's such a shame that MAME didn't use a better source of information when putting together its NG sets. But my understanding is that the developers don't really care that much about the system any more due to all the controversy over the 3-year-rule and such.
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Hi,I have problems with chrouching tiger hidden dragon (clone of kof2001).
I take kof2001, cthd2003 and ct2k3sp from MAME 0.104 romset (they work perfectly on MAME), but on FBA only kof2001 works.
In cthd2003 it says that 262-v1-v2-v3-v4.bin rom lack /but they are on kof2001!!!!)
In ct2k3sp it says that 262 v1-v2-v3-v4.bin lack and also that 5003-p2sp.bin and 5003-p3sp.bin lack and that 5003-p1sp.bin has a CRC of AB5C4DEo (it should be 96EEo6BC)
How can I solve those 2 problems?
Thanks
I've already explained this several times now so please pay attention as this will be the last.
The ROMs FBA-XXX Pro uses are the latest and most correct available. MAME and other emulators do not use the latest and most correct ROMs. They are different. That is why the sets you have will not work. If you want to use FBA-XXX Pro you must update your sets by adding the ROMs that the DAT tells you are missing.
I hope this answers your question because I really don't see how I can make the point any more clear.
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FBA-XXX Pro v1.06
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- Added 2 new PD Neo-Geo games by blastar@gmx.net:
Codename - Blue Engel
NGEM2K
- Fixed kf2k3pcb bios ROM size.
- Fixed disabling shortcuts on attached controllers.
- Some minor name corrections.
Enjoy!
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It appears that kf2k3pcb is wrong in the emulator and/or DAT. It calls for a 271-bios.bin (148dd727) that is 256 KB in size. I have that file with the correct CRC and it's actually 512 KB in size.
Thanks for that, I'll correct it in the next update.
And a very big thanks from me to all involved with FBA-XXX Pro. With these new releases I was finally willing to update my roms (thanks Thraxen), replace my previous version (31/5/2004), and delete Kawa-X for good. With that said, there is one bug that I have noticed on ever version of FBA-XXX I've tried since 31/5/2004 involving the shortcut keys. I'm unable to permanently disable them for player 1. I'll go into the controller configuration and disable these shortcut keys for players 1-4, reboot and find it enabled for player 1 again when I relaunch FBA-XXX. This will stay enabled even though the following line in my fbaxxx.ini states otherwise.I'll look into fixing this. Again, thanks for reporting it.
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FBA-XXX Pro v1.05
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- Updated newer Neo-Geo set names to match those in MAME v0.104. (see note below)
- Added the following new sets:
kf2k2mp
kf2k2mp2
samsh5sh
samsh5sn
kf2k3bla
kf2k3pl
- Updated supported Universe bios to v2.2.
- Fixed kof2002 'How to Play' screen GFX glitch. (by iq_132)
- Replaced old NeoPVC decryption code with tidier version. (by iq_132)
- Fixed dipswitch settings for all CPS1 games. Defaults now match MAME instead of everything being set to 'off'. (you will need to delete your old FBA-XXX Pro savegame for these changes to take effect)
- Fixed bug in which controllers 2,3,and 4 were not saving PPP & KKK button settings.
- Fixed Commands View menu bug.
- Added sub-folders to main roms/ directory. (just delete if you don't want to use them)
NOTE: Although FBA-XXX Pro's newer NG sets have been renamed to match those added to MAME, the required ROMs are not exactly the same. This is because some of the ROM dumps MAME is using in these sets are not the most correct.
Enjoy!
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IMO, it doesn't seem like it would be worth your time to try and change any of that because it would probably be more trouble that it's worth.
Yeah, you're probably right. I'll leave things as they are then.
I could donate, even if 720p doesn't make it.Thanks for the offer but FBA-XXX Pro is as much for my own use as everyone elses so I don't think it would be right for me to accept donations.
Seeing as how another update is in the works, I thought I should mention the few bugs I have found, in hopes that they will make it into the next release:- Old "misaligned character sprites in the mvsc ending" bug, which was fixed in Final Burn v0.26, exists in both FBA-XXX and Pro. This is fixed in most other emulators, although I was unable to find the exact lines of code to fix this problem.
- When configuring the second players PPP / KKK buttons, they are reverted back to the L / R buttons after exiting FBA-XXX. Very annoying to have to reconfigure this everytime......
- An easy one; Last Blade 2 comes before Last Blade in the gamelist
Lastly, not a bug, but a request i'm sure many would appreciate......
- Any chance of updating the gamelist, or creating an option, so that non-working sets (i.e kof2003, svcchaos ) and unXORd CPS2 games are not shown? This would be nice for those of use who use the "hide clones" option.
Do you have any more info on how the mvsc bug was fixed? Or do you know of an older version of FBA/FBA-XXX in which it was not present?
I'll look into the the controller issue, thanks for reporting that one.
The gamelist is alphabetical so 'Last Blade 2, The..' comes before 'Last Blade, The..' (apparently [space] comes before [comma] in the alphabet
)Anyone else having problems with progressive scan with FBA-XXX Pro? I have the same issue on the X-port emulators. I get a garbled screen when I use anything other than 480i. (480p progressive scan mode on). I have this problem on my monitor with X2VGA+ and also my HD panel connected via component cables. Anyone know a workaround (other than just staying in 480i which looks lousy on my panel and is unusable on X2VGA+) Thanks in advance for the help!As I mentioned previously, I don't have an HD set so I can't test this out. Although since you say you're experiencing this on other emus too it sounds like an issue with your setup. Hopefully someone else can help.
Ok,I have already read the dat file,and Kof2003 boss edition is the rom of kof2003 ultra plus or clone of kof2004.I rebuild my romset of the previous version of FBA XXX using FBA XXX PRO DATFILE with clrmame,but nothing,some roms (new roms in particular) don't work.
So with the next relase of FBA can I will use MAME 0.104 neogeo romset? I hope so,I have all romset of MAME 0.104 and in this release all neo geo new roms are added (kof2003,ss5 and special, svc chaos, metals lug 5,ecc...).
I also try the romset of Final Burn Evolution for PC,but nothing.I also have neogeo romset of mame 32 plus special 0.103,but same problem.
In your opinion,wich is the best way to find correct romset for FBA XXX PRO? In *SNIP* there are MAME 32 complete romset and FBA romset (but there aren' new roms as ms5, ss5, svc chaos, kof2003).
What can I try to do? NO ROM LINKS !!
Thanks
Just rebuilding the sets from what you have is not enough you need to make sure you have all the ROMs each set requires. If you've done this and all your ROMsets are correct but you still can't get games to work then please be more specific as to what happens when you try to play them (error messages etc.).
The next build will use same sets as MAME v0.104. However, as I said before, a few of the ROM files MAME is using are not correct so they will not be exactly the same since Pro will stick with the most accurate ones.
In my opinion I think ROM distribution has been discussed enough. That isn't the purpose of this thread.
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Hi + T +, i have a problem, when playing with FBA-XXX Pro, lets say a couple of friend and I are playing kof 2002, and accidentally someone press the button combination to bring commands view on screen (wich button combination I don't know), then to get rid of the commands view I enter to the menu and put commands view to "off" but when i try to go back to the game, the xbox freezes and i have to reboot the console, everytime this happen its the same, i want to try if putting the commands view to off while in the game via a button combination woks, but unfortunately as I say i don't know that button combination, any help will be appreciated.
I don't know the combination off the top of my head. Try checking the Help screens to see if you can find it there. If not I'll find out tomorrow and let you know. For the next build the quick fix would be to set this combo to something you can't press by accident. But I may just remove the function altogether if it's causing problems as I don't see that it's useful enough to spend alot of time trying to fix.
by the way + T + could you add 720p support to FBA-XXX Pro?This isn't a priority since I don't have an HDTV. Feel free to buy me one.
If you take a screenshot it is dumped into the "screenshots" folder. But the ROM previews are taken from the "previews" folder. If you want to make it appear as a preview I think you need to take it out of the screenshots folder, change it to the same format as the images in the "previews" folder, give it the same name as the zip name of the ROM you want to use it for, and then dump it in the previews folder.Perhaps I should just make it so that previews/screenshots use the same folder. Would that be better or worse?
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The ROMsets supported by FBA-XXX Pro are completely different to those in FBA-XXX. As the documentation says, you will have to use the DATs to find out which ROMs you are missing and update them.
The next build will include ROMsets from MAME v0.104 though even these will not be exactly the same since not all of the ROMs in MAME are correct.
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is supported (cthd2003) as are several King of Fighters 2003 hacks, I don't know which you mean by KOF 2003 Boss Edition but again, please check the DATs for details.
The PCB set of svcchaos does not currently work. This is a known issue.
I'll look into the screenshot problem and try to fix it for the next release.
FBA-XXX Pro v1.28
in Final Burn (FBA/FBL/FBC)
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Dipswitches are working here with no problems.
If you haven't done so already, delete your savegame from the MS dashboard or delete the folder E:\TDATA\FFFF0504 and try again. If you're running from HDD then also delete the files from the cfg and ini folders in your root directory.