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    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted · Edited by PhilExile

    Hi there,

     

    I'm guessing that this issue is mostly caused by the HD. There is no reason why you should still have a stock in there anyway, so I'd recommend upgrading.

     

    I would avoid SATA as they have weird slowdown at times with converters. With most emulators, this doesn't matter much. However, emulators such as CoinOps and Surreal this becomes more apparent due to the way they launch multiple XBEs. (This is when the slowdown happens)

     

    There is a 500 Gb HD on NewEgg that looks pretty good to me:

     

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136142

     

    I didn't check to see if it locks or not, but honestly, that's pretty pointless now that Xbox Live is dead. Not having to lock is awesome. You can just swap out HDs whenever and have them work without issue. :rolleyes:

     

    Also, I tested CoinOps Reignite Lite on an IDE and there wasn't the extreme slowdown present before. There is a 1 or maybe 1 and half second pause when you see the screen freeze when the rom is selected, but its not awful. As BP said, he will look at this sometime in the future.

     

    Anyway, good luck.

     

    what version xbox is it ? how is modded ? what bios ?

     

    I dont know which Xbox version I have. The MFG date is 2005/04/13, so I guess it should be a 1.6 . It is modded with an Aladdin and the bios is EvoX.

    well i dont know if you need to reformat your drive,seeing as bendermameox loads up the games quicker.but anyway seeing as you xbox is chipped you could just download the slayers auto installer disc 2.7.

    with this disc you can basically reformat your xbox hdd.just dont go ahead and reformat your hdd just yet as that miht not be the problem.

     

     

    Do you have any idea of what could be the problem if it is not the HD? I'm thinking of buying a new one which should be faster. By the way, is it possible to use SATA drive in the Xbox?

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    I wonder if that's the issue. Maybe the HD is beginning to fail. (It could be 8 years old at this point)

     

    I would try to reformat the HD and reload a more recent dash, like XBMC and then reinstall CoinOps and see if that solves your issue. Try it with BenderMAME as well.

     

    Good luck

     

     

    10 minutes or even 1 minute is too long to wait. It sounds like something else is the problem here. Could you let us know what your configuration is? AKA: hard drive type, dashboard, etc.

     

    Hi, I am a new user of CoinOPS Reignite X. I have never used any other Mame emulator before trying this one. I sent everything by FTP to my Xbox and CoinOPS installed fine. I have added Roms and I see them in my game list. The problem I have is that it takes at least between 5 and 10 minutes to load a game. I am not playing big games, for now I tried games like 1941, 1942, things like that. I tried to install older version of Coinops to see if it would work better, but I had no chance, still long loading times. So, I decided to try another emulator, I installed BenderMameOX. With this one, the same games with the same roms are loading much faster, less than 1 minute.

     

    Do you have any ideas why Coinops takes so long to load games?? Thanks in advance

     

     

    I am using the original Xbox HDD 8GB(its the Seagate). I have no memory upgrade, so 64MB only.

    Dashboard is UnleashX 0.38.0515A Build 565

     

    Do you need anything else?

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    10 minutes or even 1 minute is too long to wait. It sounds like something else is the problem here. Could you let us know what your configuration is? AKA: hard drive type, dashboard, etc.

     

    Hi, I am a new user of CoinOPS Reignite X. I have never used any other Mame emulator before trying this one. I sent everything by FTP to my Xbox and CoinOPS installed fine. I have added Roms and I see them in my game list. The problem I have is that it takes at least between 5 and 10 minutes to load a game. I am not playing big games, for now I tried games like 1941, 1942, things like that. I tried to install older version of Coinops to see if it would work better, but I had no chance, still long loading times. So, I decided to try another emulator, I installed BenderMameOX. With this one, the same games with the same roms are loading much faster, less than 1 minute.

     

    Do you have any ideas why Coinops takes so long to load games?? Thanks in advance

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted · Edited by PhilExile

    Hi (XBOX),

     

    Actually, if you took time to look at the actual topic (I know it must be hard with all the interspersed off-topic malicious comments) then you would realize that I was actually speaking with BP and the other members trying to find a solution to the issue that is affecting a very small number of people who are using SATA HDs.

     

    I would continue, but it'd be an exercise in futility.

     

    Enjoy the rest of your day.

     

     

    Quote:

    What are you complaining about anyway? That BP isn't polite enough? He wasn't even addressing you, so I don't know why you felt the need to involve yourself.

     

    Shouldnt you read the last part of your sentence and perhaps take your own advice..? I really dont see why people are excited about CoinOps Lite isnt it just a trimmed version of showcase that was already released ha some of you guys get excited a little too damn easy (New showcase X will have stuff in it thats already out there but the stuff out there is makes much better use and has more configs, tip: Brit perhaps you should get back to the Mame days when CoinOps was actually Mame), its just funny how Bp makes fun of other peoples work says it sucks then he goes and puts it in his build ands says its the greatest thing ever. (I wouldnt be surprised if he adopted the pmIII look soon seeing how his gui upgrade flopd,perhaps if you werent such a dick you would of had more people submitting skin ideas.Any how ha can someone send me the newest bugless version I lost track 6.5 builds ago and I cant really tell anyof them apart :rolleyes:

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    Yes, that's what happened to me.

     

    New videos are looking great.... :rolleyes: ive now got a new build and I must say it now looks so much better than before

     

     

    cant wait... last build was great....

     

    PS Double Dragon does not glitch at the end after killing the machine gun guy, but it does freeze as he just goes throught the door.

     

    I hiope it dont happen on 2 player, I love the fact you and pal fight for the girl at the end.... awesome :D

     

    keep it up :)

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted · Edited by PhilExile

    Waal,

     

    Actually, the sole reason I posted to you was: I don't want you flooding the thread with useless posts.

     

    Additionally, I respect the time that others (BP, NES, FreakDave, Madmab, Xport, RX, ICQ, Kenshiro, etc) invest in these emulators. I do not enjoying coming into these threads and seeing that 60% of them are childish, back-and-forth banter that is completely counter productive and insulting their efforts.

     

    What are you complaining about anyway? That BP isn't polite enough? He wasn't even addressing you, so I don't know why you felt the need to involve yourself.

     

    I'm bowing out of this conversation as I'm sure it will just drag on and on and on.

     

    Best Regards

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    Waal,

     

    Please do not make this another 'waring' thread. No one was asking for your help or opinion in the first place. No disrespect, but please stop posting in these threads. You aren't offering any suggestions to solve the problem and only trying to stir up undue animosity.

     

    Thanks

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    That's a good point. I do have XBMC on E. Maybe if I remove it and put it on F it will solve the issue. I will try that tonight and let you know.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Hello,

     

    I tried reformating the E drive, but unfortunately, the lag was still present in CoinOps Lite.

     

    BP, when you have a chance, could you look into this ?

     

    Thanks

     

    Do you have a lot of freespace on your E Drive ? (I keep 400Mo free all the time)

    Are you using a lot of directories for your roms ?

     

    I can't see any other problem. Good luck.

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    Hello,

     

    I tried reformating the E drive, but unfortunately, the lag was still present in CoinOps Lite.

     

    BP, when you have a chance, could you look into this ?

     

    Thanks

     

    BP, I downloaded and installed CoinOps ShowRoom Lite and made sure the T/U Data folders were deleted before launching. The same lag is still present when launching games, returning to the game list and return to the dashboard.

     

    I'm sure since both myself and Dballs have SATA hard drives, that must be part of the problem. Since this didn't happen on previous versions of CoinOps, could you please check to see if something was changed in the code that could be causing the issue?

     

    Thanks again. Showroom is looking great btw.

     

    The last time I met this problem was when I was giving a hand with CoinOPs: Because of installing & removing many versions of C.O., the freespace on my HDD became smaller & very fragmented. So one thing had to be done: FTP the content of E Drive to PC, format E, FTP Content of E drive back (of course no reboot, no power off). (If I remember well E:/ is the partition used for the virtual memory as well as it's used for the babe saves, anyway it worked well with me).

    garbled screen on 720/1080 emulators

    in XBOX Hacks [/xbox]

    Posted

    A picture would help.

     

    hmmm - just got my new component cable for my softmod xbox and connected it to my 1080p hd tv

     

    coinops 720 hd option selects ok but all other emus start screen is all garbled and pixels everywhere. im sure it something easy but can someone assist in my lack of hd knowledge?

     

    ta

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    No need to get nasty Waal, BP said he would look into this when the new build is released, but he is busy with other things right now. He isn't on yours, mine, or anyone's payroll, so no one has any right to demand he do something right away. AKA, all this stuff is free.

     

    Remember, this is a hobby. Chill. ;)

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    im still waiting an answer why the xtras bug up the system. its just roms and videos were talkin. no ini's ect...

     

    bp can you explain to me, or us, technically why the xtras slow down the load time of each game?

     

    This isn't what is causing the slowdown. I loaded up ShowRoom Lite with its roms and videos and the same slowdown was present when launching a rom. I believe the issue is due in part to our using SATA HDs and something that may have changed in the way CoinOps launches XBEs.

    TESTING - Trusty 1.4Ghz | 128 RAM

    in XBOX Hacks [/xbox]

    Posted · Edited by PhilExile

    Cyber Commando loads, but only 4 FPS, 57 megs of RAM free. Maybe these games just need drivers? ICQ, where are you!? :)

     

    Gals Panic 2 loads, 60 FPS, 52 megs of RAM free. New 'babe' game I think! @_@

     

    Strider 2 loads with sound, 4 FPS... driver maybe?

     

    VM Settings were: threshold: 1, commit: 256, distribute: 65535

     

    G-Darius loads w/sound, starts at 40 FPS, but once the action starts it goes to 4 FPS. Same VM settings as Strider 2

     

    Beastorizer loads w/sound, starts at 20 FPS, but once the action starts it goes to 4 FPS. Same VM settings as Strider 2

     

    Street Fighter EX

    Street Fighter EX 2

    Street Figthter EX 2 Plus

    Street Fighter EX Plus

     

    Assume these are all the same. Loads with the same VM settings as Strider 2. FPS at 4.

     

    Suikoenbu loads, but runs at 4 FPS, with the following settings: threshold: 24, commit: 1024, distribute: 65535

     

    Prop Cycle, loads well, but runs at 3 FPS

     

    Done for now. ;)

    TESTING - Trusty 1.4Ghz | 128 RAM

    in XBOX Hacks [/xbox]

    Posted

    UPDATE:

     

    Gaiapolis now boots! After talking to BP, he suggested I mess with the VM settings to try to get some games to load that usually wont. This one is the first for me to get up and running. Settings were as follows:

     

    threshold: 64

    commit: 256

    distribute: 65535

     

    The game runs great! The only time I noticed it drop below 60 FPS was in the beginning and I that was because it was accessing the HD. I have a SATA HD and sometimes its a bit slower.

     

    I'll post more if I find them. ;)

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted · Edited by PhilExile

    Either babe9999 or babeeeee if you have the newest CoinOps.

     

    whats the #'s coinops uses in T/U datas?

     

    BP, I downloaded and installed CoinOps ShowRoom Lite and made sure the T/U Data folders were deleted before launching. The same lag is still present when launching games, returning to the game list and return to the dashboard.

     

    I'm sure since both myself and Dballs have SATA hard drives, that must be part of the problem. Since this didn't happen on previous versions of CoinOps, could you please check to see if something was changed in the code that could be causing the issue?

     

    Thanks again. Showroom is looking great btw.

    CoinOPS 2 (old dev site)

    in CoinOPS Archive

    Posted

    Hi,

     

    I have the same exact issues and I too am using a SATA HD & RX's romset. In other versions of CoinOps, I didn't have this issue. I don't think the additional lag is caused by us storing the ROMs someplace other than the default location or the romset themselves. I tried using my original Showcase romset in the default location and the same lag was present.

     

    I do think that the issue lies with our SATA HDs, but something must have changed slightly in the code for this issue to become so pronounced.

     

    BP, is this something you could look at for us? I could help you test if necessary.

     

    Thanks,

    Phil

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