As far as HOW, there are several posts within this thread that explains that. As to the logic, Gouki might have dug into that one earlier as well. so do a little backtracking in this thread and you should get all the info you need. I should have phrased my question a bti better. i know what to edit in the xbe that has been explained. but for example. gouki said he edited samurai showdown 2. how did he find the offset for that? i can easily use kplus but i want to learn how this is all done myself. that is the issue here. there has to be a way to find the offsets for whatever ame you want. it cant be blind luck. gouki, care to shed any light on this?