Agozer Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I sat down and played Resident Evil 4, because I knew I was going to have to play something in order to hold myself over until my next XBOX 360 game arrives. I played it for three hours in one sitting. The main disputes that I have with Resident Evil 4 are of the following. - I find it difficult to kill a zombie with one shot to the head, even if I perfectly shoot them in the fore head they bend back and pain. Sometimes on rare occasions their heads explode. I'm guessing this relates to the fire power of the gun, but even after getting the handgun to level three I still failed at getting headshots.Exploding heads mean you scored a critical hit. You don't always even have to aim directly at the head to get a head explosion. Sure, aiming squarely at the head and having a powerful weapon significantly raises the chance to score a critical, but it's not always a requirement; you just need to nail the random sweet spot in the game's code that grants you a critical hit. The villagers get far more resilient the further you go, making the above mentioned feat more difficult. Yes, the difficulty also auto-adjusts itself depending on how well/poorly you play. The village fight early in the game is also much easier if you don't go in to the house at the center of the village or run to the northwest corner, past the tower (prevents the two Dr. Salvadors from spawning and coming after you.) - The movement feels clunky, slow, and ineffective when trying to escape. The re-loading is also a major downfall here. Often times, I'll be surrounded by numerous enemies. I run away from them and quickly turn around. Once I do this I stay in one spot and shoot my handgun as quickly as possible. The zombies tend to run towards me and stop as soon as they are in my face.That's Resident Evil Tank Controls for you. I personally like it, because it keeps the tension high. Shoot the villagers in the foot while they're running at you for some comedy, or whip out a shotgun and blast at their general direction. If you have the time and room, always start slashing villagers on the ground. You can also do this if you are quick when they get too close. - When re-loading I'm left completely open, and it is also annoying when it takes seven shots to kill each zombie when ammo always seems scarce. I wish I was able to kick enemies at all times, because when surrounded by many, it is hard to shoot all of them to the point where they cannot attack me.More like "features" that are vintage RE. See my previous comment about villager resiliency. The only time you can kick them is when they are staggering or kneeling (after knee shot) and you are close enough. Abuse it as often as you possibly can. When facing Los Illuminados (zealot monks), Leon will suplex them, instantly killing them. Note that throwing a stun grenade into a group of enemies always grants you a kick opportunity. Grenades are always good, especially if you have a high vantage point. As far as Novistadors go, you have a chance to kick them the moment they try to jump at you. The ones with projectiles are also annoying, because with Leon not being very agile, you will have to either try your luck and hope that the Zombie misses or, you'll have to waste ammo shooting a projectile in mid-flight before it gets the chance to make contact with you.If you are talking about the villagers with dynamite, wait for them to light the stick, and immediately shoot them in the face. This causes them to stagger/writhe in pain, thus causing enough time to pass for the dynamite to explode in their hand. If you have steady aim, you can also try shooting the dynamite directly in their hand the moment it's lit, causing the dynamite to explode. - The limitations on weapons and items is irritating. I want to be able to carry the TMP, along with other weapons but I end up having to discard a large and useful weapon like the shot gun, to make room. I think I'm most concerned with the fact that I cannot just start unloading bullets on Zombies like Gears of War, because every bullet counts.Another vintage RE feature. If you ask me, don't let go of the shotgun. Ever. Excellent crowd control and damage at close range. TMP is very good early in the game, but eventually you need to get rid of it to make room for the semi-auto rifle and the Broken Butterfly. - I also found the health to get near empty after each hit, and when I used the Yellow and Green plants to increase my health, it didn't seem to help much.Make tricolor mixes - you get full health plus max energy increase thanks to the yellow herb. Keep lots of these and triple greens or double greens for healing. Use a green/yellow mix only when you've incurred light damage (no more than 2 or so cells).
Skythe Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 - I find it difficult to kill a zombie with one shot to the head, even if I perfectly shoot them in the fore head they bend back and pain. Sometimes on rare occasions their heads explode. I'm guessing this relates to the fire power of the gun, but even after getting the handgun to level three I still failed at getting headshots. Pop quiz hot shot. The Ganados are not zombies. Thus why head shots defy zombie lore in RE4.
Agozer Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 - I find it difficult to kill a zombie with one shot to the head, even if I perfectly shoot them in the fore head they bend back and pain. Sometimes on rare occasions their heads explode. I'm guessing this relates to the fire power of the gun, but even after getting the handgun to level three I still failed at getting headshots. Pop quiz hot shot. The Ganados are not zombies. Thus why head shots defy zombie lore in RE4.Yes well, not zombies - more like mindless slaves. The pictures during the credits explain quite a bit about their demise.
Devia Eleven Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I have taken all of this advice into account, but ultimately I feel that there is still a scarcity of ammo. Having Ashley on a leash makes the game even more frustrating if such were possible. At this point I'm wasting ammo shooting otherwise unavoidable traps, and when I finally manage to put an enemy down, an organism pops out, then the enemy can only be killed if its shot in the head once again. It may just be me alone, but I am a very whiny Video Game player, I should take some time off. The gameplay event where Leon and the Latino shoot enemies outside of a window really made me put the controller down, as I ran out of ammo for all weapons, and, leaving me no choice, having to attempt to kill enemies using a knife, I was killed instantly.
Agozer Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I have taken all of this advice into account, but ultimately I feel that there is still a scarcity of ammo. Having Ashley on a leash makes the game even more frustrating if such were possible.Often times there is a dumpster or some other safe haven nearby where you can order her to hide, while you go ahead and take care of business. At this point I'm wasting ammo shooting otherwise unavoidable traps, and when I finally manage to put an enemy down, an organism pops out, then the enemy can only be killed if its shot in the head once again.You may opt to use a stun grenade, which instantly kills all exposed Las Plagas in the vicinity. Conserving ammo: Make sure your shots count, as in, often look for an opening (even when facing a group) where getting only one of them to kneel grants you a kick opportunity which effectively downs all others as well (Leon's kick being a roundhouse after all). Also, when facing one or two , and more importantly, if they decide to charge, shoot them in the legs and run past them when they're munching the dirt - or if only one decides to charge and others keep their distance, shoot the one charging and proceed to knife the person while he's down. Of course, stop and back up when the others get too close. If you face too many, use a shotgun or a grenade. Although, villagers with projectile (sickles, hatchets, etc.) weapons are a considerable risk. Either target them first or put your reflexes to the test by swiping their "projectile" midair with your knife. While it's always an option to simply not waste any ammo and evade, I'm the type of person to mostly go after anything that moves, thanks to the random items drops (and the oh-so-useful pistol ammo drops) The gameplay event where Leon and the Latino shoot enemies outside of a window really made me put the controller down, as I ran out of ammo for all weapons, and, leaving me no choice, having to attempt to kill enemies using a knife, I was killed instantly.I agree, I don't really like this particular section either. I usually run to the second floor and make a stand at the top of the stairs (grenades, guns, everything goes - incendiaries are particularly useful here). Though you also need to check the sides every now and then (slightly before and during the time the spaniard joins you upstairs) to make sure that the villagers aren't erecting any ladders - they start doing this fairly late into the skirmish though. Note that if you stay downstairs for a while early on, the spaniard throws you pistol ammo every now and then. The only real difference between difficulty levels is the amount of damage you take and the drop rate of ammunition - which really forces the player to take note of the survival angle. Easy difficulty is rather generous with ammo, and I do agree with some people that say that playing on Easy kind of lulls you into a false sense of security and accomplishment - whereas Normal is the difficulty people should get accustomed with. P.S. Abuse the quick 180 degree turn.
Devia Eleven Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I have taken all of this advice into account, but ultimately I feel that there is still a scarcity of ammo. Having Ashley on a leash makes the game even more frustrating if such were possible.Often times there is a dumpster or some other safe haven when you can order her to hide, while you go ahead and take care of business. At this point I'm wasting ammo shooting otherwise unavoidable traps, and when I finally manage to put an enemy down, an organism pops out, then the enemy can only be killed if its shot in the head once again.You may opt to use a stun grenade, which instantly kills all exposed Las Plagas in the vicinity. Conserving ammo: make sure you shots count, as in, often look for an opening (even when facing a group) where getting only one of them to kneel grants you a kick opportunity which effectively downs all others as well (Leon's kick being a roundhouse after all). Also, when facing one or two , and more importantly, if they decide to charge, shoot them in the leg and run past them when they're munching the dirt - or if only one decides to charge and other keep their distance, shoot the one charging and proceed to knife the person while he's down. Of course, stop and back up when the others get too close. If you face too many, use the shotgun or a grenade. Although, villagers with projectile (sickles, hatchets, etc.) weapons are a considerable risk. Either target them first or put your reflexes to the test by swiping their "projectile" midair with your knife. While it's always an option to simply not waste any ammo and evade, I'm the type of person who mostly goes after anything that moves, thanks to the random items drops (and the oh-so-useful pistol ammo drops) The gameplay event where Leon and the Latino shoot enemies outside of a window really made me put the controller down, as I ran out of ammo for all weapons, and, leaving me no choice, having to attempt to kill enemies using a knife, I was killed instantly.I agree, I don't really like this particular section either. I usually run to the second floor and make a stand at the top of the stairs (grenades, guns, everything goes - incendiaries are particularly useful here). Though you also need to check the sides every now and then (slightly before and during the time the spaniard joins you upstairs) to make sure that the villagers aren't erecting any ladders - they start doing this fairly late into the skirmish though. Note that if you stay downstairs for a while early on, the spaniard throws you pistol ammo every now and then. The only real difference between difficulty levels is the amount of damage you take and the drop rate of ammunition - which really forces the player to really take note of the survival angle. Easy difficulty is rather generous with ammo, and I do agree with some people that say that playing on Easy kind of lulls you into a false sense of security and accomplishment - where as Normal is the difficulty people should get accustomed with. P.S. Abuse the quick 180 degree turn. This does wonders. Because of your admonishments, I am succeeding in killing 5-7 enemies without getting attacked. My main strategy always seems to work. Hiding Ashely in the local dumpsters renders her non-existent, and from there I can focus on the task at hand. The 180 Degree turn is basically my only real strength in evasion. - I shoot legs, and then knife them until they die. This is saving me much more ammo than I expected, also the correct shot will make torch holders spill fire upon themselves, that also helps. Let's see how far I can get with this strategy, much is obliged.
Agozer Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Give 'em hell. How did you manage against against El Gigante (the cave troll) the first time around? P.S. I also found a rather neat feature, although it really doesn't play to your advantage, quite the opposite actually: If you try to take refuge in the village tower at the beginning of the game and stay there, the villagers will start throwing in dynamite. Thy won't try to climb the ladder to where you are , but try and smoke you out. Once you get out, they no longer try to deter you with dynamite. EDIT: If your ammo allows it, always kill crows, as they'll drop all sorts of nice things when killed. The trick is to kill them in ways that doesn't disturb any other nearby crows. Kill them in groups too (like in the area with the El Gigante where the bunch of crows minding their own business sitting in a circle on the ground - throw an incendiary smack dab in the middle and watch every single one die a fiery death). Or harass the chickens, in the hopes that they'll lay eggs (normal egg heals as much as a single green herb, brown egg = two greens). Jackpot is getting a golden egg which gives you full energy. Or, you know, sell em for pesetas. P.P.S. Never discard/sell any rifle ammo you might come across. The semi-auto rifle will be your lifeline later in the game, and the ammunition for it is very scarce. same goes with the magnum variants.
Krosigrim Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 - I shoot legs, and then knife them until they die. This is saving me much more ammo than I expected, also the correct shot will make torch holders spill fire upon themselves, that also helps. Let's see how far I can get with this strategy, much is obliged.That there might me the best stragety out of them all. heh... I often used a corral method. Say you have a group, then 1 or 2 stragglers. If you run around, trying to corral them, one will most certainly run out from the pack, so rather, I might shoot one in the leg, slowing them, "corraling them" for the eneviatable shot gun blast, that in a pack... is most adventagous. Sometimes your just unlucky... and shots don't kill well enough, wasting ammo of course. Then you try the same section again, and you kill eficiently... and have more ammo than when you started. Plus an incendiary grenade to boot... So sometimes it's a matter of... luck. It really just boils down to how well you handle any given situation with what you have. I remember being in that house with the spaniard. I remember having a time of it, not wasting my ammo. But if memory serves, they often drop grenades during that fight... I average 2-3. But then again they are hardly packed together. The only advice I can think of now, while considering all our tips... Is knowing when to use what weapon. Sure that sounds obvious... but still. That handgun I mentioned earlier, works extreemly well, and I fully recommend getting it. Or using it if you have it. as for RE5... Anyone here playing with the co-op?
Devia Eleven Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Give 'em hell. How did you manage against against El Gigante (the cave troll) the first time around? P.S. I also found a rather neat feature, although it really doesn't play to your advantage, quite the opposite actually: If you try to take refuge in the village tower at the beginning of the game and stay there, the villagers will start throwing in dynamite. Thy won't try to climb the ladder to where you are , but try and smoke you out. Once you get out, they no longer try to deter you with dynamite. EDIT: If your ammo allows it, always kill crows, as they'll drop all sorts of nice things when killed. The trick is to kill them in ways that doesn't disturb any other nearby crows. Kill them in groups too (like in the area with the El Gigante where the bunch of crows minding their own business sitting in a circle on the ground - throw an incendiary smack dab in the middle and watch every single one die a fiery death). Or harass the chickens, in the hopes that they'll lay eggs (normal egg heals as much as a single green herb, brown egg = two greens). Jackpot is getting a golden egg which gives you full energy. Or, you know, sell em for pesetas. P.P.S. Never discard/sell any rifle ammo you might come across. The semi-auto rifle will be your lifeline later in the game, and the ammunition for it is very scarce. same goes with the magnum variants. El Gigante is the man with the beard correct? If so, I found him to be straightforward and slightly easy. I died three times, but I did purposely so because I could read all of his movements. I would fill his core with the TMP, run right past him, 180 degree quick turn, and then blast him with the rifle, repeat. After he lost his legs I found it simple to kill him with the shotgun. I'm arriving to the save point, after the long and drawn out battle between me and the black cloak men. I carefully killed them one by one, the shielded men were a hassle to put down. Ashely was in my way, and I had to sacrifice my health at times to allow her to survive, the lasting sequence where Ashely had to activate both levers was tedious, I head shot all of the cloaked men with the rifle, while having to withstand several on land beside me. I didn't think anything of the crows, I ignored them because they did not bother me, but I noticed that Chickens and Snakes leave chicken eggs behind, although I have not seen many animals lately. - I shoot legs, and then knife them until they die. This is saving me much more ammo than I expected, also the correct shot will make torch holders spill fire upon themselves, that also helps. Let's see how far I can get with this strategy, much is obliged.That there might me the best stragety out of them all. heh... I often used a corral method. Say you have a group, then 1 or 2 stragglers. If you run around, trying to corral them, one will most certainly run out from the pack, so rather, I might shoot one in the leg, slowing them, "corraling them" for the eneviatable shot gun blast, that in a pack... is most adventagous. Will try.
Agozer Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 El Gigante is the man with the beard correct? If so, I found him to be straightforward and slightly easy. I died three times, but I did purposely so because I could read all of his movements.Nah, the huge cave troll. Nice to hear that you dealt with Bitores Mendez (the bearded village chief) so easily. You can actually damage him when he's writhing on the floor getting ready for his second transformation.
Krosigrim Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 Can you play the mercenary missions yet MF29? If so, play them... ALOT. Find the fun in it. Because surviving it alone is a test in itself. And the better you do, the better you will manage your ammo in the game itself. But... I cannot remember if you can playthem right off the bat, or if you need to beat the game first.
Devia Eleven Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 El Gigante is the man with the beard correct? If so, I found him to be straightforward and slightly easy. I died three times, but I did purposely so because I could read all of his movements.Nah, the huge cave troll. I was used to fighting him because I did so previously in the Gamecube version. Can you play the mercenary missions yet MF29? If so, play them... ALOT. Find the fun in it. Because surviving it alone is a test in itself. And the better you do, the better you will manage your ammo in the game itself. But... I cannot remember if you can playthem right off the bat, or if you need to beat the game first. How do I play these missions?
Agozer Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Finish the game once and the Mercenary missions are unlocked. They are roughly the same as Mercenary Missions in the past RE games. You can play as Krauser, Hunk, Ada, etc. Wesker too, I think.
Skythe Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I got lucky in the village. I ran to the left corner of the village from the entrance into it and managed to fight them off without worries. Groups were always infront of me while 1 or 2 stragglers were to the right of me.
Devia Eleven Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Right about now I would confidently say that the game is now amusingly challenging rather than troublesomely difficult. At this point I really want to end the game. I'm right at the section in the story where Ashely gets held captive for the second time by a flying insect, and I'm trapped in the room with the two giant clawed men, along with problematic red cloak men with head guards. I died twice, and I decided to take a break and progress at another time.
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