I'm a new user (i bought my ds lite 5 days ago). i use a r4. - mario kart, tetris, work perfectly (wep, dhcp) here's my experience with ds wifi with last homebrew versions : - wep never works 1. "on boot" (i navigate to r4 browser and choose the right nds) - dsorganize 2.7 : works ! - all others (dsftp, beup, ndsmail, liveweather, wifichat, wifi lib test) : don't work. wifi lib test can't "see" anything 2. "on soft reset" after intializing wifi in a game (i test the connection in the game then the r4 allow me to press L+R+A+B+X+Y to softly reboot my ds, which seem not ro reinit the wifi) - dsorganize 2.7 : hangs ! (completely, the timer is stopped) - all others (same list) : work perfectly ! so i guess it's a just an initialization problem of wifi in homebrews (or in the lib ?)...well i'd rather all homebrews work like dsorganize for init.... i hope this may help experts to find the problem ! just another question, about the control panel for wifi we see in games : is it added in each game that have wifi support ? or is it a kind of ds-build-in application that is called from games (and so may eventually be called by homebrews !)