random guy Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 Ahh screw it, its not worth arguing with people who argue prevarically and denigrating<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I feel your pain man.... I cant stand that people are voting for Krappy.. err... Kerry just because its NOT Bush... wtf.... so I guess it doesn't matter how many lies Kerry tells or how bad he is going to flock up our economy..... pfffft... might as well put a gun to my head now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What are you talking about? That's all the republican party DOES. If you don't vote for Bush, you're 100% guaranteed to get attacked by terrorists (never mind the fact that the Bush administration had all they needed to know intelligence-wise to predict 9/11). Kerry's a flip-flopper, never mind the fact that the vote he "flip-flopped" on was actually 2 different ammendments - he refused one draft, and accepted the other. Kerry hates the military because he votes against the millitary, even though most of those cuts came from one group of bills which were voted for bipartisanly (Cheney voted for them as well). Kerry WASN'T WOUNDED ENOUGH to get a purple heart in Vietnam, even though Bush used his family contacts to avoid the entire vietnam war. Nearly everything the republicans use daily to attack Kerry (except that he talks too much, that I'll agree with) is a either a lie or distorted-out-of-perspective untruth calculated to make Kerry look bad regardless of the facts.
caramba Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) In Response to Swithin "Vietnam was to stop communism from spreading. Made sense under the zeitgeist of the time. The whole world thought that way. We didn't enter Iraq to stop anything, and it sure as hell doesn't make sense to any other country (except our personal fluffer, 'Great' Britain.)" While this may be true, don't forget that much of our Cold War involment abroad was fundamentally motivated by profit. A perfect examble would be Nixon/Kissinger's "Track Two" plans to oust Salvador Allende, who campaigned on the platform of appropriating much of Chile's natural resources. While this may be decidedly left-wing, it hardly qualifies as Stalinism, or Maoism, and Track Two was only brought to the drawing table after relentless lobbying by IT&T Copper. Another example would be Guatemala, where US intervention was the result of lobbying by United Fruit. "The sad truth is that America *is* racially fractured, why else would we" *need* a Black Caucus? So kinda they are [racist]... in that the stated purpose of the group, who are elected officials, is to represent black Americans more strongly than white Americans." An interesting viewpoint, however that logic could be extrapolated to state that any group championing the cause of a certain demographic is fundamentally inequitious; ie...the womens suffrage movement would have been "sexist." Also, a sizable amount of the members of the Black Caucus are elected from majority-black neighborhoods, so in essence these indivuduals are just representing their constituency. It is also worth noting that only two black men have been elected to the Senate since the Civil War. "...and that's certainly not addressable without a surprise secession (Oregon, Washington, British Columbia - Let Our Powers Combine!!!)" How about BC, Oregon, Washington, California, Hawaii, Alaska?"People's Democratic Republic of Pacifica," anyone? edit...while i realize Alaska is an |R|state, they generally tend to be Ted Negent-esque wierdo Republicans, which I can deal with. Edited November 1, 2004 by caramba
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