yup kof 2000nd is up and running (thanks for the tutorial) now I'm working on 2001 seems I can't find a full version of kof2001 lots of missing roms so as of yet I can't generate a kof 2001nd kof2002 & rotdn will be off the radar till I can manage figuring out how to add info to the.dat files oh well nothing else better to do tonite anyway `wootman