Tokyo Bus Guide and NullDc

[Road Hammer]

Hello, First off I would like to say if this post is in the wrong section I am sorry.

 

Now, I downloaded Tokyo Bus Guide game and was going to try it out. The file that I downloaded was a bin/cue. I noticed that in nulldc there was a option to load bin so I did select that. I also downloaded utopia boot disk and I added that to the GDRom. But it just decided to crash. Instead of working. I know that I did something wrong since I saw on youtube.com that someone did get it to work. I don't know if it is because I am running windows vista. but it is a possibility. So could someone please lend a hand it would be really appreciated or tell me what I did wrong.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Road hammer

[Agozer]

What exactly do you mean by

 

I also downloaded utopia boot disk and I added that to the GDRom.

[Road Hammer]

What exactly do you mean by

 

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I also downloaded utopia boot disk and I added that to the GDRom.

 

Hello, Thanks for the reply.

 

Well what I mean with downloaded utopia boot disk and I added it to the GDROM. I mean in nulldc there is a option under options. Where you select Image file. I was looking around on the internet and I thought it would of worked. Since many people were saying that it might need a selfboot file. i thought it would of taken care of it.

 

I am new to emulators and I just wanted to play the game. I hope I am not too much of a bother.

 

Thanks for the help/sorry for the misunderstanding

Road Hammer

[Agozer]

I'll make a few points clear just so that we're on the same page here:

 

The Option --> GDROM menu specifies a certain disc image that will always be used when you fire up nullDC. Most people only use this when they plan to play a single game for a long time and do not swap games often. I'd suggest using File --> Normal Boot to boot your games. Not the Options --> GDROM menu nor HLE GDROM Boot option, because the latter bypasses the BIOS, and can/will lead to compatibility issues.

 

Don't use a bootdisc unless you are absolutely sure that you need one. Games that need a bootdisc simply do not boot at all and stay in the Dreamcast menu. Finally, does the game crash or does the entire emulator crash? Which version of nullDC are you using?

[Road Hammer]

I'll make a few points clear just so that we're on the same page here:

 

The Option --> GDROM menu specifies a certain disc image that will always be used when you fire up nullDC. Most people only use this when they plan to play a single game for a long time and do not swap games often. I'd suggest using File --> Normal Boot to boot your games. Not the Options --> GDROM menu nor HLE GDROM Boot option, because the latter bypasses the BIOS, and can/will lead to compatibility issues.

 

Don't use a bootdisc unless you are absolutely sure that you need one. Games that need a bootdisc simply do not boot at all and stay in the Dreamcast menu. Finally, does the game crash or does the entire emulator crash? Which version of nullDC are you using?

 

Thanks for the help and for clearing up what the GDROM is for.

 

well the version of nulldc that I have is Nullsc 1.0.3 mmu. When I loaded it up with Null it just crash and windows vista pop's up saying that it has stopped working. I also get an error when I start up Nulldc it says that "this applications has failed to start because d3dx9.37.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem." Thanks again for your help.

 

Road Hammer

[Agozer]

A missing DirectX DLL suggest that you haven't installed the latest DirectX runtimes. Get the DirectX Web Updater and update.

 

Do not use the MMU executable. It is only meant to be used if you happen to like nullDC in Interpreter mode (Dynarec disabled, which 99.9% of users do not like because it is several times slower than Dynamic Recompilation).

[Road Hammer]

thanks for the update. I will see what happens. As soon as I get home I will try that. But I was sure that I updated direct x

 

Road Hammer

[Road Hammer]

Sorry for the double post.

 

I did what you said with direct x but my drivers are upto date and it was a windows vista issue. I forgot to run it with admin credentials.

 

I did boot up normally but it shows up in the music cd section of dreamcast. Also there are no keyboard controls i didn't find anything for controls.

 

Also I tried loading up the bin in nulldc since that is what it is. A bin/cue file in the rar. help would always be appreciated.

 

Road Hammer

[Agozer]

Options --> Maple --> Port A --> Config keys for Player 1.

 

If you boot the game up normally and it shows up as a music CD, then that is a pretty strong indicator that either the disc image is damaged or it is non-selfboot (well in all honestly, DC games ripped to BIN/CUE are always non-selfboot because the BIN image only has one track - selfboot games need at least two, AFAIK). If the disc image is not damaged, then you need that bootdisc we discussed earlier. Boot it first and follow whatever it tells you. If it fails to boot, you are SOL.

[Road Hammer]

Options --> Maple --> Port A --> Config keys for Player 1.

 

If you boot the game up normally and it shows up as a music CD, then that is a pretty strong indicator that either the disc image is damaged or it is non-selfboot (well in all honestly, DC games ripped to BIN/CUE are always non-selfboot because the BIN image only has one track - selfboot games need at least two, AFAIK). If the disc image is not damaged, then you need that bootdisc we discussed earlier. Boot it first and follow whatever it tells you. If it fails to boot, you are SOL.

 

 

I when I go to options --> Maple--> Port A I unplug is the only option the other keyboard is disabled on it. When i boot up the boot disk it says that av cables are not compatible to turn off and unplug av cables

[Agozer]

Make sure that you've selected nullDC controller [Winhook] as the active controller plugin. Otherwise, nullDC doesn't emulate the controller at all (or depending on the selection, emulates the DC keyboard, the DC mouse or a disconnected controller), thus robbing you of any additional options the Maple menu might offer. If a boot disc (or any game) is complaining about incompatible AV cables, set the Cable Type to either TV or VGA, whichever works.

[Road Hammer]

Make sure that you've selected nullDC controller [Winhook] as the active controller plugin. Otherwise, nullDC doesn't emulate the controller at all (or depending on the selection, emulates the DC keyboard, the DC mouse or a disconnected controller), thus robbing you of any additional options the Maple menu might offer. If a boot disc (or any game) is complaining about incompatible AV cables, set the Cable Type to either TV or VGA, whichever works.

 

ok thanks for the help with the controller and the tv problem. Now when i load up utopia it loads fine until it say please insert cd. I loaded the bin but it didn't work i am not sure if i am doing this right or wrong.

 

EDIT: when I look at the command line window. There is a error when i do that it says Error in .dc/mem/sh4_area0.cpp:WriteMem_area0:169 -> Write to [MPX System/Boot ROM] is not possible, addr=1002,data=b,size=2

 

I don't know if you know what that means other than it failed. Help is always appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance

Road hammer

Edited February 25, 2009 by Road Hammer

[Agozer]

Well, if the console reports an error, you might as well be stuck for good. The reason why I don't like non-selfboot games is because they make you jump through hoops to get results, and even then getting results is a bit of a shot in the dark.

 

Either ditch that image you have and try to find a selfboot image, or try to make that image selfboot by yourself (a rather complex task that requires a couple of tools and extra files - hard-to get ones and this procedure is complex enough for me to not even bother trying to explain that in a way that would make sense to you).

 

Before ditch that image though, you might want to try booting in Demul, if only for kicks.

[Road Hammer]

Well, if the console reports an error, you might as well be stuck for good. The reason why I don't like non-selfboot games is because they make you jump through hoops to get results, and even then getting results is a bit of a shot in the dark.

 

Either ditch that image you have and try to find a selfboot image, or try to make that image selfboot by yourself (a rather complex task that requires a couple of tools and extra files - hard-to get ones and this procedure is complex enough for me to not even bother trying to explain that in a way that would make sense to you).

 

Before ditch that image though, you might want to try booting in Demul, if only for kicks.

 

Alright I guess I would have to look for another image but it would of been nice if there was one available. From what I have looked around there isn't. I was just curious how this person got it to work in nulldc.

 

[Agozer]

DC emulation is heavily dependent on the disc image you have, for starters. Yes, others may have gotten it to work in nullDC just fine, but as far as I'm concerned, the one who made that video most likely had a completely different image from yours. He migt have been using a different BIOs revision/region too, who knows. It's not like he's giving any specific details.