Thanks ahead in advance for taking the time to answer these questions, only way I am going to learn this stuff...hopefully it doesnt bother you guys too much... thanks again. Several Days ago, I went over to ******* and downloaded the svcplus that they have over there. 40 mb, under the neo geo set, saying it works with the latest neogeorageX. I download such and it does detect, seeing it as Snk vs Capcom Bootleg. Snk vs Capcom Plus and Snk vs Capcom Plus A are greyed out and not selectable. This one runs great, with the mini bosses enabled, but no shin mr karate or shin akuma, which is what I want....call me a complete-ist. I have attempted the universal bios with no luck, though was later told it wouldnt work anyway on another forum. It is thought this is the "Plus" that came out earlier but was fixed because of all the issues. Am I spinning my wheels here in trying to get the two characters? Am I missing something obvious in how to get them..or should I be happy with what I have? Or do I just need a whole new rom set? Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.. Mod's edit: Please do not mention romsites.