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Me so sick of polls with only option to vote for opposite ends of the question. I prefer to sit on the sidelines on this one with an "I DON'T GIVE A F**K AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU!"

Why should you care? It affects you not.

 

Then there is the religious aspect. I myself think ALL religions are a f**king joke, but I don't care to question if they are right or wrong, or ask others if they are ok with em. Note the above......"I DON'T GIVE A F**K" about other people's religious beliefs either.

 

On a closing note, this thread was started based on someone's insecurity, nothing more. If people were secure in their own beliefs, they wouldn't question the beliefs of others. Nuff said! :lol:

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Me so sick of polls with only option to vote for opposite ends of the question. I prefer to sit on the sidelines on this one with an "I DON'T GIVE A F**K AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU!"

Why should you care? It affects you not.

 

Then there is the religious aspect. I myself think ALL religions are a f**king joke, but I don't care to question if they are right or wrong, or ask others if they are ok with em. Note the above......"I DON'T GIVE A F**K" about other people's religious beliefs either.

 

On a closing note, this thread was started based on someone's insecurity, nothing more. If people were secure in their own beliefs, they wouldn't question the beliefs of others. Nuff said!  :lol:

It does matter, because it's our generation that makes up society n the views therein as the times progress, of course I am like u in the sense that I dont care to involve myself in social politics but it doesn't mean I SHOULDN'T give a f**k, I just dont want to give a f**k.

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What I see coming from this 50 years down the road is the delegalization of all marraige, making it a personal contract and nothing more.

Gay marriages...

I never saw marriage as a big deal anyway. So...whatever.

I mean...a personal contract is almost what it is now, only with a bunch of legal stuff added.

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Here's something for u all to think about, n I know many of u use the idea of 'it's not natural' as a defense to the idea of whether homosexuality is 'right' or 'wrong'.  Some people claim that it's not natural because u don't see animals in nature exhibiting homosexual tendencies n whatnot.  Well that's wrong, animals have been shown to exhibit homosexual tendencies whether it be a lack of cognitive processing or they like to do it, they have displayed it.  HOWEVER, consider this arguments aswell: some animals have been known to show signs of cannibalism and/or eating their own children.  Does that mean then that it's 'ok' and natural for humans to act the same way?

 

Who's to say what is natural n what isn't for the human species?

 

I mean we alter our physical appearances through the use of plastic/constructive surgery, we engage in sodomy (whether it be homosexual or heterosexual), we use chemicals to alter our physical and/or mental states... does all of this equate to what u would really consider 'natural'?

 

We shouldn't compare ourselves to nature because being human is what seperates us from the animals, at least I feel that it is relevant to say so.  We r a species based upon cognition n intelligence, aside from merely 'instinct' which is what we refer to as the behavior of animals.  We act how we think, sure there is some instinct behind our actions but that does not govern our actions, at least I think so.  We also act how we feel... n like many homosexuals claim, it is natural for them because that's what they r, they were born that way.  Whether that's true or not is up to speculation n scientific evaluation, because even psychology with it's many studies on environment n social engagement etc. can't disprove the possibility that maybe some of us ARE born that way.

 

Lastly, consider social trends.  You should understand that society's view also governs what is 'wrong' n 'right', just as in Greek n Roman times the act of homosexuality was a priviledge n social commodity.  If u think society had no hold onto how u feel that homosexuality is either 'wrong' or 'right', then yur mistaken.

 

Homosexuality is human 'nature' meaning that it's 'natural' because it's not uncommon within our species (look at history), n to hate 'them' is to hate yurself because gays r human too n anyone/everyone could be gay, even if u don't choose to be homosexual (yes some people choose which way to go).  But that also goes to say, that anyone/everyone could be straight too.

 

EDIT:..or hey, even both. :lol:

 

EDIT AGAIN: Oh ya, I also recall reading in recent psychological studies, the outcome of children whether they be raised by straight parents or gay parents has little to no affect on what lifestyle they choose.

That's very true - the only psychological argument you could quote for opposing homosexuality is 'survival of the fittest' - homosexuals don't breed, therefore technically they're maladaptive as they don't ensure the survival of the fittest. However, in a situation like the one humanity has created for itself, where the world is actually overcrowded, and at least two people are born for every one person that dies, that ceases to be a problem. It has actually shown that one of the characteristics we share with apes/monkeys etc... is that we and they have sex for pleasure, not just for reproduction. Therefore it is believed that some aspect of higher-brain functioning that we share with monkeys is responsible for our desire to have sex just for pleasure. In other words, we've evolved past the need to ensure the survival of the species, and our instincts have involved too. You cannot say that homosexuality is wrong beccause it doesn't appear in most species - most species don't have the luxury to have sex for pleasure, they're just doing it to mate.

I agree that you can't compare humans to animals, for a number of reasons. For one thing, we don't piss all over our house to mark our territory!

 

ps I didn't mean that apes and humans had sex together for pleasure, I meant that apes have sex with members of their own species for pleaure, and humans have sex with other humans for pleasure as well!

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I am assuming that you guys did not take my previous post serious?

Wow fatal, you catch on quick.

Wow cominus you don't realize sarcasm do you?

I dont know you well enough to pick that up. Some people are natrually hippocritic.

Seriously Fatal, what do you expect us to answer to your topics? I think you should work on your "morality". Just an advice.

Well I am a christain but I am far from perfect. For some reson I enjoy being with the wrong girls.

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You know a few years ago people were having this exact same arguement about interracial marriages (mainly by hardcore Christians just like now). Interracial marriages are commonplace and the same will probably happen to gay marriage. People just need to chill out and accept our bretheren for who they are and not their sexual preference.

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some of the comments on this thread make me sick,

 

a person loves another person, they want to tell the world they want to be together , what does it matter what sex the two people are?

 

imagine if your life parnter died and then you were kicked out of your house.

 

why do you care what these people do togther and i notice that most of the "against" comments are aimed at gay men not women

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some of the comments on this thread make me sick,

 

a person loves another person, they want to tell the world they want to be together , what does it matter what sex the two people are?

 

imagine if your life parnter died and then you were kicked out of your house.

 

why do you care what these people do togther and i notice that most of the "against" comments are aimed at gay men not women

Ha ha, good point...everybody loves lesbians! So what have you guys got against gay men?

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some of the comments on this thread make me sick,

 

a person loves another person, they want to tell the world they want to be together , what does it matter what sex the two people are?

 

imagine if your life parnter died and then you were kicked out of your house.

 

why do you care what these people do togther and i notice that most of the "against" comments are aimed at gay men not women

Ha ha, good point...everybody loves lesbians! So what have you guys got against gay men?

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some of the comments on this thread make me sick,

 

a person loves another person, they want to tell the world they want to be together , what does it matter what sex the two people are?

 

imagine if your life parnter died and then you were kicked out of your house.

 

why do you care what these people do togther and i notice that most of the "against" comments are aimed at gay men not women

Ha ha, good point...everybody loves lesbians! So what have you guys got against gay men?

Ya, male dominated society. It's a double-standard n biased, n most guys I know wet their knobs at the idea of lesbians 'oh that's oh hot'. Like those chicks they see in pornos. What they fail to realize is that these gurls r bisexual most of the time n only engage in lesbianism as a form of entertainment/pleasure, real lesbians r more than just the sex. Not to mention many of them r dykes, as in tomboyish manly women. I doubt guys find them hot, when they r true lesbians.

 

Society's shortcomings can be amusing.

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I am assuming that you guys did not take my previous post serious?

Wow fatal, you catch on quick.

Wow cominus you don't realize sarcasm do you?

I dont know you well enough to pick that up. Some people are natrually hippocritic.

Seriously Fatal, what do you expect us to answer to your topics? I think you should work on your "morality". Just an advice.

Well I am a christain but I am far from perfect. For some reson I enjoy being with the wrong girls.

Hahaha...Have you ever tried meeting the "right" girl? :P

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