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Sweet fiery onion of hell!
I have been away for a few weeks (too much work REALLY) and
a lot of things have been happening! Wonderful!
Question for +T+:
My already configured game INIs (from INI/EMULATION/) will
work fine with a 1.7 clean install?
I really need to play OutRun e HanOng games correctly!
Regards, and thanks soo much!
Cospefogo.
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I didn't actually mean it could be done in the code. What I meant was that creating custom configs as suggested by A Murder Of Crows and darknior could easily be done for major systems as it would mostly be a case of copying and pasting.
Ah.
I see!
Bad English of my part!
Regards,
^C^
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It could easily be done for the major systems (CPS, NeoGeo, Cave, Psikyo, etc.) since most games that run under these drivers use only one set of controls. It's when you start getting into all the Misc games that things would become complicated.
+T+!
Right on the spot!
The only systems that (at least in my end) need to have adjustments in the controllers are ONLY CPS1 and CPS2!
Absolutely *all others* are perfect as is from the default driver/factory settings!
But this is not a crucial super important feature at all...
Just something to the end of the task list!
Regards,
»C«
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The problem with that is the way that FBL assigns controls. (...)
So, with things as they are, there's no way to set (or define) one particular control layout that will work for all games. (...)
Hmmm...
No problem!
It's OK then!
Thanks for the clarification, +T+!
+C+.
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Hey +T+!
I have been playing many times last weeks and, at the moment,
* the only thing * I really miss in FBL is a universal controller setting.
It could be great to be able to set a key config right in the general settings
panel and force all games (that does not have yet their own config)
to use it as default.
Of course we can adjust the keys, game by game upon "first play"...
Well... This is the only thing I miss.
Regards,
C.
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That feature should be easy to add to NestopiaX since the UI is the same as FBL. I'll send XxHellsFuryxX the code.
OT: Cospefogo, is that you in the video? Your cats are great. I like cats a lot.
Yeah!
It is me on the video.
And I like cats a lot as well.
We have seven in the apartment.
And I also take care of three more strays down the corner in my neighborhood.
=)
C.
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Looks like ASM to me... Notice the first one is commented out.
Looks like something spoken right from the mouth of the Devil to me!
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* The SLG3000 (& VGA converter) wouldn't be necessary if scanlines were built into the emulator. I *think* this is planned for the next release of SNES9x by Madmab.
Hmmm...
I have been helping MadMab to test his scanline filter attempts in MednafenX-NES
but we have been out of luck. MadMab was able to create the filter using some old
code left behind inside Xport Atari800 emulator, however the filter was breaking the
60fps framerate integrity in some games, for example, Akumajou Densetsu was
running in constant 42fps.
Also, he was thinking to try to "import" the scanlines filter used in ZsneXbox, however
the whole filter is coded in the most devilish language of the world --- assembly.
Assembly is evil. MadMab is doing his best.
Ouch!
C.
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Great stuff Phil!
Thanks for the pictures.
But +T+, if we scale the Xbox screen to any given proportion
the aspect ratio will be broken, and there will be artifacts in the
screen while it is moving...
...unless you are in bilinear or trilinear, of course.
Well, I am a bit confused now.
Where are we all trying to go from here?
C.
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I have never suffered this horizontal line flickering / bleeding etc that everyone seems to suffer with.
Right, if you use the filters, this hides the distortion. I actually think the filters are pretty good for the most part - except for those ones that smooth out the pixels in weird ways. Shudder:
Yes yes.
I second that.
If you never saw distortions it is solely because you use the filters!
=)
C.
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Maybe because I work with pixels (http://www.pixeltemple.com) I would never, ever,
move back to a composite (standard AV) connection. The image is so dirty. I am not
thaaaat nostalgic. For example, a great achievement for me was when I got S-Video
support for my SNES and my PSX. Wow! The image got a LOT better. And imagine my
happiness when I first got my Xbox plugged with component in a (good) CRT TV. The
flicker was gone! The image was crisp and clear as crystal!
So I have a half-new and a half-old vision of this whole thing.
I like my games with scanlines but at same time I prefer to get rid
of all that old "dirt", blur and artifacts from the original composite connection.
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Trying to set pixel-perfect horizontal sizes is just a waste of time since it won't get you anything like an accurate display. So this is the approach I'm taking with FBL to get the scanlines working properly across as many games as possible. For most games FBL will be sized to be double the native vertical resolution and all games will use the same horizontal size (probably around 576), thus creating as arcade-accurate an image as it's possible to achieve with this hardware.
Hey guys!
Well, if I take - right now, under 480p/720p in a LCD TV:
- Any NeoGeo game, like for example Metal Slug
- Apply the scanlines
- Apply point filtering (no bilinear, no blur, sharp as hell)
- Double the original height (pixel perfect)
- And apply *any given horizontal width* the game - even with the scanlines will not present a perfect scrolling horizontal. There will be waves totally noticeable on the screen. When you are out of the correct width is super easy to see the problem.
However, if I change the hardware filtering to bilinear or trilinear, the waves are gone. The problem is masked, diguised, but the screen becomes so blurry that I feel I am needing glasses to play. The pixels are completely smoked!
Mybe under the real 240p the width could not matter at all, but under a progressive 480p/720p in a emulator I think it should not be left behind. Also, there are some games that really had narrow old crt sceens. Stretching them to fill the modern display will present a "bad aesthetic" result... fat charecters!
=)
Well, my cents!
Regards,
Cospefogo.
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Never say never, T.
I was just thinking about 10x11 pixel mode. Basically, that mode compresses the screen by (I think) outputing pixels that are taller than they are wider. Would it be possible to reverse this, in effect creating a 11x10 pixel mode? With this new mode the pixels would be wider than they were tall, thus helping with the black bar issue.
What do you think?
Hey Phil!
I already had this idea in the past!
I asked MadMab about this and the answer is no!
Pixel Aspect Ratio 10x11 is a hardware/video thing.
It is not a function or a bit of coding added for the programmer guys...
There is no way to invert it!
=)
C.
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+T+,
Few months ago I had a real Super Famicom + the Power Pak cartridge (the one
where you insert a CF filled with ROMS and play in the real hardware.) Also, I was using
my Samsung 29" 480i traditional CRT TV, in other words, SNES in real 240p as it should be.
Few time later I did buy a Wii and plugged on the very same television. For my suprise,
the Wii's hardware is capable of output *real* (when I say real I mean real) 240p to a
CRT TV! I was pretty shocked when I did run a SNES emulator in the Wii and the graphics
were absolutely the same as the real console. Believe... it was awesome.
Then, I did sell my Super Famicom with the PowerPak cartridge, it became completely
useless for me!
But since I decided to upgrade to a LCD TV (old, used, bought from a friend) to have
better screen for Mame/FBL games I had to gave it up the Wii's 240p features.
So, now, the best option for me are the scanlines generated by the emulators
or the SLG3000 device that generates scanlines through a VGA connection.
And, for my eyes, the current FBL scanlines filter is almost like a 240p output.
We just need to have it a bit more "visible", more "strong" to really get very
close to the point.
Regards,
C.
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I'm sure iq_132 would be happy to share those driver updates. He's nice like that.
well... there's a hint.
maybe a new name for fbl is in order...
"FINAL BURN LEGENDS PLUS!!"
Sooner or later, Final Burn Legends will become Final Burn Love.
It is already planned!
C.
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Great info, Phil!
Thanks for sharing!!!
My day will come...
You will be my witness!
Pixel Perfect Witness.
We should createthis church!
C.
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A. Control Changing: I'd like to 2nd the opinion/request of someone earlier in this thread. We street fighter players would much rather have a "push the button you want to use for this function" style of control scheme setup, the way FBA-XXX Pro had.
I like this as well.
C.
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I got an xbox adapter for the x-arcade stick, so that it now maps directly to xbox gamepad button presses. So now it works with final burn legends out of the box - almost. The only issue, is that the ingame menu is only accessible from a right thumb press from the first controller, and the x-arcade has no way to send this input.
In the GUI option you can assign other combos for the In-Game menu!
My arcade (Hori Fighting Stick) also does not have thumb sticks, so I
did change to START + BACK.
This option is almost hidden inside GUI > TEXT OPTIONS > Last page, if I remember well!
Regards,
C.
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I order my roms exactly like you do Cos. i Like things neat and just one zip per game.
Unlucky on the favourites thing. A lock for certain settings is worth looking into +T+.
this gave me an idea... would it be possible to have a dat file that makes clean names. edits out unwanted roms (pr0n, mahjong, doubles, etc) that could be included with the releases? of course leaving that full dat file too.
maybe a xtra's thing?
Tristão-X!
I think you just need to open the current .DAT file with a editor
like Notepad++ (it's free and a superb light editor) and
have some nice time adjusting the games on the way you want.
Great idea indeed!
Cospefogo.
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+T+, my suggestion is to have a LOCK FAVORITES inside the general options menu.
This way we can keep the faves SAFE from accidental game removing!
What do you think?
Implementing that would take me a lot more time than it would take you to simply back up your favourites file.
Yeah...
I need to agree.
I fixed my faves and already made a backup.
This idea occured me few minutes after my previous post.
Slapping friends,
Cospefogo.
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Here something that happened to me:
I like to have my roms on a neat and simple order.
I prefer simple names, just one version per game and that's it.
So, following the advice from +T+ I did add all my games to the favorite list,
and, using a text editor, adjusted all names (and even rom order) to match
my ideal list. No presence of long names, version info, dates, different countries
and so on...
THAT IS MY ULTIMATE and PERFECT romlist.
BUT, a friend came to my house and accidentally pressed black several times
and removed a lot of my faves. I can add them back, of course... but I will need
to adjust the file again to correct my neat setup!
Where I want to go?
+T+, my suggestion is to have a LOCK FAVORITES inside the general options menu.
This way we can keep the faves SAFE from accidental game removing!
What do you think?
Cospefogo.
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The Zsnexbox code is very different to FBL, though the UI's look the same. It would probably be more constructive just to look at the FBL scanline filter and adjust the intensity values there. It's on my list of things to do but I've got several other things at the moment that I'm trying to figure out so for now it will have to wait.
(...) Mapping it to the right thumbstick as in Pro isn't an option since there a few games in FBL that use the right thumbstick. (...)
Hej +T+!
Yes yes, no problem at all. I hope that, when the right time comes, adjusting the intensity
could be a very simple process... I really hope that!
=)
And about mapping things to the thumbsticks --- for myself/my person/my case this is ever a bad idea.
I don't have thumbsticks! I use only HORI arcade controllers. And I bet some other people do it as well...
=) =) =)
And looking forward for a fresh new full of good news Final Burn Love 1.6!
Cospefogo.
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+T+,
Did you have the time to check (just check) if the scanline filter
used in ZsneXbox could be "ported/imported" into FBL?
I am very very pleased with the scanlines variation modes
presented in that emulator.
While FBL presents the scanlines filter equal to ZsneXbox Scanlines 25%,
we still have two other modes, 50% and 75% scanlines. It is really great.
When you have a break on your time,
please just take a look...
Thanks so much!
This could be the ultimate "old-skool" screen setting for FBL!
Regards,
Cospefogo.
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Hej +T+ and other guys,
For those who want to try my pixel perfect setup
you can download this pack:
http://fancyxbox.info/xtras/fbl/fbl_720p_pixel_perfect.zip
Please have in mind:
--- This is for 720p
--- This is NOT a complete set. It has MANY, when I say MANY I mean A LOT of games adjusted, but some will be missing the pixel perfect settings. All INIs where created using scripts and batch works, so, we can also have few games in wrong settings.
--- My TV for sure is different from yours, so, the image could be displaced a bit to the sides or to the top or bottom... But the pixel perfect size is intact! You will just need to move the image around X and Y axis (if needed, of course!)
Regards,
C. C. Cospe.
Final Burn Legends 1.7
in Final Burn (FBA/FBL/FBC)
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Ouch!
So I think I will return to that old method of having two different FBL running in parallel.
All my vertical games are superbly fine in pixel perfect no-bilinear-sharp-as-hell in the actual 1.5 version!
I switched from a LCD TV to a LCD PC monitor (light weight) and now I can physically rotate my screen
on side, to lay the vertical games as they really should be played!
Anyway, thanks for this version, +T+!
I will setup it for OutRun and HangOn games by themselves!
Regards,
C.