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Fatal Rose's 'The Art of Seduction'

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Thanks- I've just got to think about all this..

To clarify though, the rage isn't towards the one I'm having trouble with. The rage is for the old chick from years ago.

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Thanks- I've just got to think about all this..

To clarify though, the rage isn't towards the one I'm having trouble with. The rage is for the old chick from years ago.


How do you feel now about this, is there still something missing from your current one with May when you compare the two relationships? Are you sure it's not just getting used to being in a relationship? I mean, it's like weed, you get used to it real fast, and you get less of a buzz each time.

I really can't pinpoint the exact cause of your rage at the moment. It certainly is tied to miss Nameless, but I think you're wrong in feeling that it's towards her. In my current opinion, I think it's actually towards yourself because you still didn't find out why exactly she changed and you might be thinking you were responsible for it. Just my 2 cents.

edit: retarded idea removed, replaced with current one.

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Why direct the rage towards someone that don't even know about it?
You are wasting your rage.

Do what I do; go beat the crap out of someone on a fighting game :(
that will release your rage :lol:

Honestly, as I said, don't dwell in the past but look at the present and future.

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How do you feel now about this, is there still something missing from your current one with May when you compare the two relationships? Are you sure it's not just getting used to being in a relationship? I mean, it's like weed, you get used to it real fast, and you get less of a buzz each time.

I've never been on the kind of lunatic high I was on the other time with May.. but I think it has to do with things getting duller over time as you say.

I really can't pinpoint the exact cause of your rage at the moment. It certainly is tied to miss Nameless, but I think you're wrong in feeling that it's towards her. In my current opinion, I think it's actually towards yourself because you still didn't find out why exactly she changed and you might be thinking you were responsible for it. Just my 2 cents.

I'm pissed because we had a good thing going, she changed up on me almost overnight, became inhumanly cold toward me, and from that point we have hardly said 2 words to eachother. I'm angry because all of a sudden she started treating me as though I murdered her parents or something.

Why direct the rage towards someone that don't even know about it?
You are wasting your rage.

It's not as though I go around punching walls about this. Whenever it comes up and I think of her it makes me angry. That's why I choose not to think about her and when someone wants to talk about it I tell them I don't want to.

Do what I do; go beat the crap out of someone on a fighting game :(
that will release your rage :lol:

The only one I have online atm is VF5 and I'm no good at it :/. Wait until SSF2THDR comes out and watch the pwning begin.

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I'm pissed because we had a good thing going, she changed up on me almost overnight, became inhumanly cold toward me, and from that point we have hardly said 2 words to each other. I'm angry because all of a sudden she started treating me as though I murdered her parents or something.


Have you ever blamed yourself about this? Because I believe it's what's causing the real grief. Questions like "what have I done to her?" or "was there something I said?" kept popping up in your head. But it's not your fault bro, you should let it go. Women are weird for one thing. Maybe she got cold feet, wasn't ready for such a strong relationship, had some jealous friends who convinced her to dump you or whatever. I'm just assuming based on the limited info I have. Anyway, it's time to let it all go away in my opinion. It might just have to remain one of your life's mysteries. You could leave it at that or go confront her about it, I suppose, which would help you a lot more anyway. Knowing what happened, if it was you indeed (which I highly doubt), than maybe you could use this to your advantage and not repeat the same thing with May.

edit: lol, hijacked Fatal's thread, hehe.

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Axl -- your advice is naively optimistic. To avoid any sort of embarrassment confrontation should be the last thing on one's mind, and it could leave his love interest resenting BK as much as he resents Ms. May.

My original post was out of control in length, but I explain my situation, how it was handled, and the outcome. The similarities are there, perhaps not every single detail but for the most part it was a semi lengthy relationship with a female that already had a boyfriend. Here's the more important excerpt:

...keep jealousy at bay. Her boyfriend is of no concern to you, you didn't even hear about the guy until recently... and though I don't know her, I highly doubt she would be pathetic enough to invent some imaginary dude in order to make you jealous. It's possible that she had intended to keep something like a boyfriend a secret since she probably felt you would treat her or act differently which would create an awkward tension… but honestly, I wouldn’t look too deeply into it.

As for being second best… feeling someone out while in a relationship (which females are notorious for) doesn't equate to the person of interest being second best -- it's either due to an attachment to the person they're in the obvious failure of a relationship with or because they need to feel an assurance that there's someone sticking around for them and they won‘t be alone.

As Ryan said, if it's causing emotional turmoil or too much uncertainty, walk away. Otherwise, return things to the way they were prior to your learning of her relationship. If it doesn't seem to be working out, you need to walk away and find someone else.


But I will add that besides awkward tension there may be a fear of BK running away again.

Blunt yet harsh is the way relationships go, and that's the way advice should be given.


Note: I actually do have an extensive amount of experience in this type of situation as a lot of the women I have fooled around with or been romantically entangled with had a significant other of some kind.

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This thread was heading towards Epic Win then turned to Epic Fail real quick.

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Well, that may be so, granted, you guys have more experience than me anyway, not contesting that. But I found that it has always worked for me to be honest and willing to talk about it. Your advice gives me the impression that it might leave unresolved issues and would further enrage BK really. I'm saying since I've studying a bit of psychology on my own after some sessions with a therapist and found it helps me a great deal in many aspects of my social life. That's just me, of course.

I advised the same thing, don't bother with her other dude, if indeed she has one. Your main concern is building your relationship with her. I especially agree on what you said about the fact that they need assurance, it's almost always the case, since it overwrites any leftover attachments they might have for their initial relationship.

I can't agree with you on the "blunt and harsh" bit. I choose to be softer with girls and it's working out great.
I also can't agree with you on the confrontation bit, simply because, through psychology I've come to realise that guys fear any sort of arguement and that they would rather quit than fight for it. That's sad really, and it's what galvanized my previous response. It's because most guys think an arguement automatically equates to screaming, yelling and lots of sh!t being said. That's wrong. BK says he connects with her on all levels, which means that she has the ability to have a calm, rational arguement, which almost always leads to resolved problems. Just my 2 cents.

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This thread was heading towards Epic Win then turned to Epic Fail real quick.


How is this leading to epic fail, Skythe?

Well, that may be so, granted, you guys have more experience than me anyway, not contesting that. But I found that it has always worked for me to be honest and willing to talk about it. Your advice gives me the impression that it might leave unresolved issues and would further enrage BK really. I'm saying since I've studying a bit of psychology on my own after some sessions with a therapist and found it helps me a great deal in many aspects of my social life. That's just me, of course.

I advised the same thing, don't bother with her other dude, if indeed she has one. Your main concern is building your relationship with her. I especially agree on what you said about the fact that they need assurance, it's almost always the case, since it overwrites any leftover attachments they might have for their initial relationship.

I can't agree with you on the "blunt and harsh" bit. I choose to be softer with girls and it's working out great.
I also can't agree with you on the confrontation bit, simply because, through psychology I've come to realise that guys fear any sort of arguement and that they would rather quit than fight for it. That's sad really, and it's what galvanized my previous response. It's because most guys think an arguement automatically equates to screaming, yelling and lots of sh!t being said. That's wrong. BK says he connects with her on all levels, which means that she has the ability to have a calm, rational arguement, which almost always leads to resolved problems. Just my 2 cents.


Rather then confront it's best to learn what her feelings are for him. I don't think Salorskin's advice against a confrontation is to avoid an argument. He probably means to keep away from the "why not choose me?" situation which, if has a negative outcome, leads to embarrassment, at times further resentment, and makes you look like a little b****.

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um... Is this for real?

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um... Is this for real?

As real as it gets...




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