Hello

Maybe i'm being blind or something, but is there a way for us to change the manufacturer info on CoinOPS, that appear on the bottom right of the screen on the frontend?

I ask because many of them aren't correct, with many being replaced with the 'Other' description instead of the correct ones.

Thx in advance.

you cant without my help

please list them and ill look into it. If not you will have to use a non BP build

Oh ok.

I usually do those custom builds with different games that we have on showcase for example (personal taste, etc), and i noticed that, even many games there don't have the correct manufacturer info. A small example of what i mean is Lady Bug being by Universal and listed as 'Other' and so on.

So, since they are a lot, after i run all the 1040 games or something of the last dvd i made with R3 for testing, i will give you a list with the games with the incorrect manufacturer info. Maybe this could be even useful if you decide to upgrade the showcase version later.

Thx again.

the list you sent are clutter to me....I removed them also alot you say are wrong they are licienced to say Sega but made by someone else so they are not really sega games....

but in R4 i have added keniko and one other manufacture back from being other. I dont want to clutter the list with all those obscure names for that I would recommend using an emu with proper naming like Mamedox or HK or Bendermike the roms/manufactures are mame true

so I changed all the names the origonals had all the names in and alot more info I removed it all for a reason so sorry they wont make it into Showcase it took me a while to remove these

Basically, i go for this info, collected here: http://maws.mameworld.info/maws/

And they aren't obscure names. Kaneko, Visco, Seta, Universal, Mitchell, Raizing, Video System, etc?

If we are talking 'normal' people like family or friends not used to games, those are just as obscure to them like, SNK, Data East and the others are.

It's your choice of course, of what you want to do on your build and your emulator, but an option for us to change the manufacturer info on CoinOPS could be well welcomed, at least for people like me that like the correct info on the front end.

'Other' is nothing, besides also the ones that aren't correct on the NeoGeo driver and so on.

CoinOPS is a good emulator to play with your family because it's user friendly, and most of those persons don't know what's neogeo and so on of course, but imagine this scenario: They could like a game by Visco or Kaneko for example, and decide to try more games of that manufacturer to see if they find more games they like and this option helps on that.

Regarding the first part of the list being clutter, like i told you, i can send you in other format if you want.

I think the easier way is the user being able to change that info like you can on the genre for example.

It's a lot of trouble both for me and you if we do this to check all these games, but i feel it makes the experience more 'complete' so to say.

Many thx again.

I allready know the manufactures and removed most of them on purpose...the main ones are there and all Neogeo are placed togther and NeoGeo SNK as they made half the games for it (it was a quick way to group all NeoGeo together as NeoGeo has alot of fans).

As I say if you want a complete experince of manufacture names every other Mame on the xbox uses the true MAWS names .... I removed them on purpose as there where over 80 diff manufactures and to me thats clutter. Same as what I did to Cats there was over 75 cats origionally as well. To many for what I wanted (it ilocked into the xbe maybe I would think of moving to an xml one day but its not on my list of stuff to do at present)

And yes Kaneko is back in as alot of there games have been fixed in R4

Yeah, i know they were removed on purpose, so an option for us to change that info like we can on other things, is welcomed, at least for me of course.

And i know also NeoGeo has a lot of fans, but CoinOPS, or MAME for that matter, isn't a emulator build specifically for those games and certain drivers, like is the case of FBA in some ways, and other emulators too. i showed today the R3 to a friend of mine and his family and they didn't play a single neogeo game all day for example, since they wanted to relive other memories. It was curious, and it's just a matter of personal taste in the end.

There's no wrong in letting us change this kind of info, at least that's my opinion. They are usefull for people that like to build custom versions of CoinOps showcase basically, because all of us like different things of course, like us europeans don't care much for american soccer or wrestling, and other people like those and so on.

This is just a matter of choice, simple one, that doesn't mess with the emulator purpose, functionality, aspect and frontend, that i really like i might say.

So, here's my thanks again and please reconsider this option in the future.

I would add it if it was easy but its a big task to do so..... its a consideration though

Thx.

The xml file or other option that the user can change could be a good way, if it isn't too much trouble for you of course.

Changing yourself all the games can be daunting and tiring, as was putting here a txt of all of them to change, and i only sent you the part 1.

So with an option, it becomes the user choice to have that trouble or not.

this is a fair request with helpful files... I differ in opion on it but if it was easy to add I would have added it for sure.... dont worry about what was said here its very good and even handled in your own thread......

Good luck

after the things that happened last days, i saw myself looking to my old threads on xbox-scene, on compability lists of mame-x and ox (among others), with users giving feedback and help, tracking bugs, etc, similar to the thread here on drivers sugestions. And then i noticed the date, 2003 on xbox-scene, how the time flies.

But they were good times, and Mameox B3 came from it, with all the help from people and feedback, with xport help also in the end.

when the new releases of coinops started, with the new drivers by iq_132 and following all the feedback, it remembered me of those good old times, people helping eachother, users and developers.

so, i don't really understand how someone can focus on the negative stuff instead of the very positive thing that was happening here. Trust me, it's rare, and it feels like a missed opportunity now, not letting it go all the way.

best wishes on what you decide to do in the future and thx again.

it wasnt like the old days......theres alot of stuff happened that I havnt told you, Ive warned you guys if you really think the users were helping then its because you dont know what was happening around the place. Developers and helpers are aware at least in part of more than they are saying. If it had been just the stuff on this forum that is minor but there is alot happening all around and none of it positive. But they have got there wishes at least from a public point a view

As you may have noticed already, when i have an idea or suggestion, or if i am against something why not, i try to fundament it and explain the reasons, that way it's always easier to have a better picture of the idea you're trying to get across, or even for people to talk about it

Maybe i don't know what was happening completely (it's true, since i was away for so long), but i have a thing to ignore certain kind of comments and focus only on the positive stuff.

Some users were helping, some still want to do it and others were always there to thank you, and still are. Then you had the opposite side and everytime they sent you a troll bait, you fell to it, instead of ignore it. Also, some technical stuff of coding and so on, it's always better by pm and private instead of public.

Public you go for few topics with focus on testing and feedback (trying to be polite), never letting the offtopic and troll baits get you or the topics themselves. It must be that way if the moderators don't do it first, or else you meltdown. I'm talking here or everywhere.

saying they got their wishes is doing exactly what they wanted then, so, they win.

Fumanchu's new topic 'CoinOPS reignite Updates Unofficial thread' could be a good way to start anew. Updates, feedback, ideas, with a strong hand and focus on that. You just have to ignore the rest.

the nature of my leaving is so no one can use stuff against me if they dont know what happening hench I wont be posting stuff about projects anymore....anything else is all good. The trolling and silly comments is only one side of the nature of the beast. Im partly leaving due to some other people that support the project have also had big issues to some that dwel around and they dont want to deal with it also. Although the painfull people think they know all, like no sources etc but they need to look right in front of there eyes more, they know only a small amount. Ill leave it at that.

But basically CoinOPS must be underground now trust me it will be easier for everyone concerned

I understand that, what i couldn't understand is if you stopped development because of those things that happened.

Underground is good for development (the thing about going private exactly), and let be on public the updates (when they exist) ideas, feedback and help from the users. And the new topic being created by fumanchu and not you it's a good idea also. Generally, when it's that way, the topics flow better if they are created by the 'users'.

those last few days on the forums where to see if I could stop the behavour....but I couldnt it was plain to see...I warned all users in a public forum and was even encoraged to do this. It was being set in stone at that time for a while and im well aware of alot of stuff behind the scenes that maybe your helpfull friends can tell you about one day . Anyways as said it was warned many times over a few weeks it obious it was only going to get worse and the helpfull people were only going to make life less helpful. This means no updates at all ever from me on progress on anything im doing, its painfull on more than just forum fronts. You guys can discuss this all you want Ill look occassionally but no real updates and the direction is now heading totally away from what you have seen, it would have been good release the final Oldschool mameox build I did but that is being killed off now as we speak (you can ask a few around here they know whats happening with my thoughts and directions and allways claim to know, just ask them whats happening and trust they them they are nice people with no movtives or underhanded ways just plain honest people )

I'm not sure what 'helpful friends' are you talking about, but anyway, it's your emulator, your work and so on. In the end, it's your decision, so good luck in your projects and things you decide to do in the future.

Life's too short to worry about trivial things and emulators should be used to have a fun and relive memories, not to make your 'real' life more difficult.

peace.

no worries :)good luck to you as well....

PS if you hex edit mamedox.xbe of mamedox to have the save game save name as coinops you should be able to run CoinOPS launcher with manfactures but it will only play mamedox games

it looks like you can just change the version number in romstatus.xml and then change the skin elemnt to point to version in stead of manufacture (would be nice to have a switch ) but its a quick d it yourself hack that will work no worries by looks

Hmm ok, i will have to try that, thx.

Btw, i'm thinking i could have found some sort of bug yesterday, regarding this same kind of info.

I'm not sure if it's related to the number of games, but when i made a dvd with 1040 games, everything was fine. After i did another version, that now has 1050 games, the genre info doen't appear and always gives an 'invalid' error if you press 'Y' to see the games by manufacturer on the frontend. I tried 2 dvds, and always the same. Weird.

read the readme FAQ its one of the FAQs...ive fixed it now (its becaause you are not shutting it down correctly or launching a game and it isnt saved on exit...using IGR or turning off not using shutdown....ive now set it to save after scannning for rom names)

Hmm, but what i'm talking about happens after i clean everything (delete udata and tdata saves) and go for testing a new dvd/build of coinops with 1050 (or more) games.

Basically, when loading for the first time coinops now on those new dvds with 1050 games, the genre info doesn't appear correctly. The first time you load appears as 'unknown' and the second time doesn't appear at all.

That didn't happen on the ones with 1040 games or less, since i always used the emulator the same way untill now. Maybe it's a coincidence, not sure at the moment.

PS: This solution: "Q - I cant see the Catagories of my games what do I do
A - Press START on the games selection page and select Scan All Your Games this is sometimes required after a fresh start"

doesn't work also. weird

no idea sorry I dont test off DVD I run 1400 games on my Showcase at present with no issues with genre

yeah, it doesn't make sense.