leaky, leaky.

I'll give my impressions sometime tonight hopefully.

Dam, i reall need to get a 360.
Both the PS3 and 360 are looking like the right purchase atthe moment.
Anyone know how to make a quick buck?

sell a kidney.

ah i hate u inky i woke up late and just started um making a backup so i have to wait a lil while to play, i cant wait im actually yelling at bit torrent to hurry up

Guess i'll wait till tomorrow for the pirated copy to come out then

I've wanted to hack the 360 for awhile now but I have come to a underdeveloped conclusion that the benefits do not override the negatives.

Along with me voiding my warranty, there is a chance that I could screw up the firmware or what have you in the modification process. If I feel too apprehensive about modding it with my own hands, I will then have to get someone else to do it for me.

Which then means that money is involved, bringing money out of my pocket, a pocket that is pretty much empty, (filled with lint and other worthless trinkets). To add to that, DVD DL-R discs tend to be a bit costly at this time (or so I've heard), and I also do not have a DVD DL burner in my hands, which means that I will have to pay even more money for that.

Some more additions here, I'm a collector, slowly buying games, completing them to the max, (eventually), and then meticulously placing them on the shelf with untouched casing and scratchless game discs safely concealed inside. I drain all of the possible Achievements out of each game I play so I can have a decent score having only played a few games. How does this sound to you guys?

sounds like u r a hardcore gamer i mean real hard core but u can always order a premoded 360 they do exist also i get dvd dl at a ridiculous price i got like a 150 of the bastards for free.
i have a elite for online 360 and then i got a premodded 360 for nothing out of my pocket i got it as a present.

Shellshock 2, Fear 2 and now SFIV all within a few days. I'm still really just waiting on Tales of Vesperia

I hear shellshock is really bad. I'm skipping it. I am grabbing fear 2 but don't have a disc to burn it too lol. I'll just save it for later.

Never heard of shellshock

Where's the PC release FFS! Consoles are TEH SUCK! ROFLMAOWTFBQQOMG!

You didn't miss much.

Glad to know that.

BTW, I LOVE STREET FIGHTERS IV!!!!!!!

just fired up sf4 today,this is fukin awsome i have just played it for about an hour and this just feels like being back in the arcade again.
Lovin it.

got in about 20 ranked matches today. my win ratio is still hovering at 50%.
also finished off the normal time attack. I was getting bored of Zangief so switched over to Cammy and actually had some good results with her. stage 14 was the only one that was tough.

anyone want a fight, got my 360 back today.

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(@ Cinder but looking at the date of your post you know this already)Didn't Wizard quote somewhere in this thread that July will be the PC release plus the patch the consoles are getting.

I've heard July as the PC release date. last I heard of the championship edition patch was "when it's done"

I had some bad luck today. 6 fights, 3 lame Kens and 3 decent akumas. WTF?
But even a decent akuma can totally botch his ultra. lol at jabbing like crazy from across the screen... I wonder what you're trying to do buddy.

I'm playing Challenge MOde doing the Trial Modes.

Guess i'll be the first to say this but has anyone else noticed that it seems they took Street Fighter EX(whatever) tweaked and cleaned it up, repackaged it and slapped SF4($F4) sticker on it...I mean it took years for them to finally move from sf2 to sf3 and you could tell/feel the difference and this one feels/looks/acts and ill go so far as to say it smells like EX. Don't get me wrong i spend hours online playing it but i seem to run into alot who think this is a whole NEW reinvented street fighter.....sorry for ranting just some thoughts i wanted to share

No.

Did you really play it seriously? It does not even resemble SFEX in anyway.

Just got off rank match, two words for you "Guard Break" or as they repackaged it as "Focus Attack" if you really played the EX series and by "really played" i mean took the time learning the frame rates of moves/attacks and beyond you would see it too...on a side note SF4 is just as unbalanced as the EXs where if not worse with certain characters (Zangief...which im not complaining about since he's always been my fave since SF2:Road Warrior)....But once again im not debateing or hateing just expressing certain thoughts/opions.

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Just got off rank match, two words for you "Guard Break" or as they repackaged it as "Focus Attack" if you really played the EX series and by "really played" i mean took the time learning the frame rates of moves/attacks and beyond you would see it too...on a side note SF4 is just as unbalanced as the EXs where if not worse with certain characters (Zangief...which im not complaining about since he's always been my fave since SF2:Road Warrior)....But once again im not debateing or hateing just expressing certain thoughts/opions.
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sf2: World Warrior you mean?

WE DONT NEED ANOTHER HERRRRO!!!
WE DONT NEED TO KNOW THE WAAAAAY HOME!!!
ALL WE WANT IS WHAT YOU OWE US!!!!


....Thunderdome.....

Yep was wondering if anyone was going to catch that (inside joke with my buddies plus i never call Zangief by his real name to me he's Gief).... KyokugenKiss its nice to see a "fellow chucker" <-- wheres that quote from

teenage mutant ninja turtles (the movie) when they were fighting in april's house

Does everyone really have only one special combo?

Man, if your getting beaten by Giefs, you just suck at spacing. The only reason he does so much damage is because your letting him in for free to deal it.

Was Guard Break scalable? Nope, FA goes with 3 levels, with level 3 being unblockable. If your getting Level 3s off, the people you are playing suck, or they don't know the game. Focus/Saving Strikes are breakable as well with certain moves.

I guessed you missed the part where i wrote "tweaked..repackaged" on the earlier post, please keep in mind the hardware limitation they had in the past compared to todays machines hence the smoother and added animations andthen some...and they would need to change it since the Guard Break comes out instantly and unblockable no need to charge so just to give beginners a chance (see more tweaking..."Focus/Saving Strikes are breakable as well with certain moves.") You also failed to read that "The Gief" is my fave so 9 times out of 10 I'm doing the beating with him and so i pretty much say i know all his little quirks and yes the game is unbalanced for instance they've put no wait on The Gief's SPD (Spinning Pile Driver)or Abel's Whirlwind Throw and you can just abuse anyone with the right timing, like, nearly no escape from them. But please don't misunderstand me im not out to change peoples minds just sharing a few thoughts that if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck (__insert your answer here__).....

Come to think of it, I guess you are right in this aspect. So, i guess nothing new in SFIV then Just repackaged stuffs.

I like SF4, I got to play against Inky!

Yes... I heard you have a mean Sakura.

Make your posts clearer. It's difficult to read a bunch of text crumped up together.

Secondly, the hardware issue is not a problem. It can run on a PS2 if they wanted too. FA does not and is not a "tweaked" and "repacked" GC. Their just too different to compare too.

So if I use Sagat vs your gief, will it still be imbalanced? Because Gief isn't broken by any means. Because if you want to see broken, I'll show you broken.

Alls I know, is Gief is broken. He is far too advantagious

gief is pretty under used online. I've only faced a few and none were really using him well.
the online competition is really stiffening lately. as casual players are moving on to whatever is new. my record has taken a pounding......

My buddy won a tournament with Gief about 2 weeks ago at a local gameing store. Some was quoted saying " you can't do anything against him!"

Gief can grab you out of a combo practically. My only defense, is the old back to basics, and fireball them into jumping, where you dragon them out of the air. Very basic... but thats where I play best.

Using gief online is like the equivalent of input delay offline. He's terrible to use online for one reason: delay. Less is better, but the slightest delay you get will completely screw up Gief pressure play.

If you want a true character that's broken, or rather just too safe to use, is Blanka. Nearly everything he does is too safe to punish and he'll hit and run you all day. Gief is NOT safe to use. Sure you'll get free SPDs from time to time, but 80% of the time your getting pressured to stay away.

If anyone says that you suck cuz u get beat by Gief, post ur xbl name and get trashed.


And as for The Blanka comment, I cant give props to anyone who uses blanka, cuz wat u said is too true.
All his attacks, if blocked- are like unpunishible!!! From fireballs to qucik attacks, they never catch him. and also can cant aerial on him, thunder. and lets not forget that upper roll dive hits u from behind so even though u blocking it can hit u....
Im like, was dis guy this cheap on SFT2?!

Their called paragraphs but i guess you cant see the similarity to those also, may be thats why you cant see how sf4 is like an enhanced EX..its your vision

Wow! not an issue the ps2 has a what 64-bit emotion engine cpu;do you even have the slightest idea what it takes to run sf4?
But that would be great cause that would mean it be a water downed version,the characters would be blocky(maybe) and finally you would see all their repacking and how the Focus Attack is an upgraded Guard Attack

First when i said unbalanced i not only ment The Gief i was talking about the whole game and its fighting system: some characters are over powered,unbalanced frame rates for attacks/moves,the game wasnt well thought out,guess it was more of a fanservice thing...And let me guess like most Sagat players your going to sit back and throw a mix of Tiger Shots well with Gief having two moves that dodge projectiles completely. 1 does major damage and one has lots of priority, and both have very good range so with dodging projectiles 24/7 and with practically no delay for punishment in between(SPD) the only thing "Broken" here is your reallity thinking you actually knew anything about fighting games..

(Also haven't seen any Sagat players win in any "REAL" tournaments)

And before everyone and their momma trys to challenge me know this: I dont care if you think your the best to quote a famous saying "Victory means nothing,the fight is everything!" <--wheres this quote from? So all pms with challenges will be ignored (which half the time are scrubs/noobs) if i run into you on XBL then keep this in mind "My strength is much greater than yours! Next time we meet, I'm gonna break your arms!" <--and this one?

Perfect. Which sets up the next one.


Wrong. The fighting game engine they used for SF4 is scalable (Even they've said they could of ported it to the PS2 and all you'd lose is visual and audio quality while retaining the main game because they engine they developed was flexible enough). Even though we do know the hardware the arcade version IS running on, it is really just a PC. And you know what PC games are right? PC games SCALE graphics to fit the hardware requirement. To which: Surprise! Surprise! Is how you get games to run on anything! L2systemspec plox

Whatever

You are retarded to even think that. Seriously, do you even know what you're saying? Do you have frame data? Do you have statistics on how well everyone matches up against each other? Did you take the time to figure out the faults for everyone? I'm guessing no, because you obviously have NO idea what you're talking about. Stop riding cock feed bullshit and do some real searching. And finally;

Hoho! Bringing up my inability to play fighting games! Good one! Now I'm gonna get down and dirty and call you a straight up scrub. Sagat's game is ALL about keep away (and the fact that you can HP Tiger Upper FADC into Ultra being the other). Do you even know WHY he's the cream of the crop? It's because he can CONTROL space. He can control nearly ALL of it with his longer reach on his normals and tiger shots. He's been like that since Super Turbo. Controlling space to the game, and unlike in ST, he can still do heafty damage up close with his links. And I'll repeat it because you won't read in between the lines. He can control space.

Hell, I bet you didn't even know this game doesn't have meaty hits like previous SF games. A wakeup (not even a good one) will get your SPD attempts EVERY time no matter what. People aren't stupid to fall for a walk in SPD (well the ones your playing are obviously stupid). I will not stoop down to a level where I have to give someone a chance. I play to win, no matter how dirty I have to play. If you can't stop tiger spam, tough luck, I'll exploit that crap like it's FIST OF THE NORTH FUC KING STAR.
Are you serious? Don't you watch youtube? I'm guessing ranking battles (both american and japanese) and the most recent NEC08 tournament don't count as "real" tournaments. Buddy, lemme tell you something. Sagat is a consistent top character, guaranteed, top 3 will always have a Sagat player or two. So stop talking out of your ass and learn to use your head.

HAHAHAHAHAHA you really blew your cover there.
take your trolling back to gamefaqs.

lol 'Watch youtube"....common is that where you get your skill, ripping others combos, How pathetic..and i said
WIN tournaments not show up and rank..ha! 2nd place is 1st place looser :So far all tournaments having been won with other characters not Sagat...bout the specs i wont even comment on that since you cant even seem to read you need to see it on youtube Ha!.....A closed mind is a lonely mind..."I play to win, no matter how dirty I have to play. If you can't stop tiger spam, tough luck, I'll exploit that crap like it's FIST OF THE NORTH FUC KING STAR."....Your a joke no skill at all.....whatever your just mad because Giefs kick your ass all the time....How sad

p.s. I was right bout you being like any other Sagat player: like your the first to try that strategy..saw it on youtube?
(control space=running like a biatch) always in the end i scrape Sagat Scrub players like you off Giefs boots.Your laggy connection will be the only thing saving you just hope i never run into you at the arcades cause ill send you running crying to your mommy.

give me third strike over this game anyday.

SF4 has its moments but yep love the classics SF's 1st....(Can't live without my fba-xxx pro)

I'm sorry, what did you just say? Did you just say watching youtube is where one gets skill and combos? Are you KIDDING me? Did you just really say that? Holy Christ, your ignorance knows NO bounds. I don't have to prove my self to a scrub who does not want to accept facts from his own little fictitious world. But honestly, keep going, because I will prove you wrong every. Single. Post.

You want some tournaments where Sagat has gotten top?

Arcade Infinity Ranbat 4.1 | Paul (Sagat) vs Gootecks (Boxer) Grand Finals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqP2vSSa90s

Planet Zero SF4 Weekly 11/09/08 | Mike Lu (SA) vs Crow (SA) Grand Finals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZizJoBkshC8

Nagoya Street Battle 1 | Mago (SA) vs KOG (SA) Grand Final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ash8sRSEDqE

Game Inn Sakura Ranbat 2 | Ojisan (SA) VS Maasuru=Abel (Abel) Grand Final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CddtK7mjYJ4

God damn I fuking love Guilty Gear.

I remember watching an OXM video recently and it featured the UK's 'best' SF player. He uses Sagat, and has won tournaments.

I've been using Sagat since Champ Edition and couldn't really put my finger on it, but I guess he does 'control space' better than the rest.

WOW!...Thanx for showing me this cause really all that proved was that if those are the best players at those tournaments then just hand the trophy over to me...Are these like local neighborhood gamestore tournys? The 1st vid the announcer(1:38) was all amazed that Sagat did a jab to ex-tigeruppercut But ok you proved a point (I Guess? or half point? )

You know what i appologize didnt mean to upset you with my opions of $F4 being similar to SF EX.. wish you best of luck at those ?tough? tournys. Or whatever your into

for crying out loud dont apologise!