svt_lightning
Dec 23 2008, 06:15 AM
I want to use my nes, genesis, snes, N64 or my GC wavebird, Logitech PS2 Cordless Action Controller, and my dreamcast controller
well I seen some but for GC (and I can't use my wavebird controller), dreamcast, and PS2(which I'm not use I can use my logitech) to play on my PC however do they make a converter so I can use my GC wavebird, logitech PS2 cordless and everything else. I can deal without the NES and N64 but the wavebird is a must. Thanks!!
svt_lightning
Dec 23 2008, 04:20 PM
something like this but its not compatable with the wavebird and i'm not sure either with the cordless PS2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=150311146538
Tynvar
Dec 23 2008, 04:22 PM
You want all that with one adapter or one adapter per controller? I know there are multiple controller adapters, any normal game cube adapter should do the trick for the wave bird.
ken_cinder
Dec 23 2008, 05:55 PM
Are you interested in making your own adapter? You can make one for all but the Wavebird and Dreamcast provided you have a parallel port.
If you are, I'll point you in the right direction.
P.S. The wavebird won't work with any adapters on the market, the receiver requires power it cannot get from a USB port or otherwise. Theres another issue regarding signal conversion, but we won't get into that technical aspect........just know you CANNOT use your Wavebird on the PC.
svt_lightning
Dec 23 2008, 06:17 PM
im willing to make my own if its not hard to do bc all i have now is the 360 wirless controller
ken_cinder
Dec 23 2008, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (svt_lightning @ Dec 23 2008, 01:17 PM)

im willing to make my own if its not hard to do bc all i have now is the 360 wirless controller
Feel comfortable with a soldering iron, wire stripper and hot glue?
svt_lightning
Dec 23 2008, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (IJTF_Cinder @ Dec 23 2008, 10:34 AM)

QUOTE (svt_lightning @ Dec 23 2008, 01:17 PM)

im willing to make my own if its not hard to do bc all i have now is the 360 wirless controller
Feel comfortable with a soldering iron, wire stripper and hot glue?
own both everyday I use it

is it possible to make for all controllers?
ken_cinder
Dec 23 2008, 08:57 PM
You can't build one for the Wavebird like I said, and the wireless PS2 controller may or may not work, but you can wire up all the others.
The Dreamcast is actually one you will need to buy an adaptor for, as the serial interface works custom with the maple bus in the Dreamcast. You could make your own, but you'd need to program a PIC to capture input and convert the output to USB protocol for instance.
Too much work when you can buy a cheap adapter like
this, which may support that wireless PS2 controller too.
You can make one for NES, SNES, Genesis easily with a chopped parallel cable and a few diodes. An N64 adapter however, requires a little more work -
http://arcadecontrols.com/Mirrors/emulatronia/n64pad/SNES -
http://www.tolaris.com/snes-to-parallel/NES - follow the SNES procedure above, but apply the NES pinout
here instead.Genesis -
http://ppjoy.bossstation.dnsalias.org/Docs...irectPadPro.htm
svt_lightning
Dec 23 2008, 09:34 PM
ya I get what your sayiing and it's a good point too. however I like to use my corless PS2 if I can't well then I will have the buy extention cables for my GB, dreamcast, and PS2 regular controllers. I figure I get a sega one b/c it can play like a Neo geo controller you know what I mean as far as the 3 button system. so if they make an adpater just for SNES and sega I would jump all over it and get the other one too (trio) for gc,dream, and PS2
ken_cinder
Dec 24 2008, 06:27 AM
Well that Trio will cover those 3, the others you can easily build yourself. Except the N64 one of course, that requires a bit more work.
Save yourself some money, put a parallel port in a box of some sort, wire up 1 or 2 serial port connectors to it and put some serial port plugs on your controllers, matching the wires up for each controller to where they should be on the box.
It really is fairly simple.
Inside your box:
Parallel port pins Serial port Pins
1 3
2 4
3 6
4 etc etc
5
6
7
8
etc
Then you just match the connector wiring on your controller to where it's supposed to be on the box, so that you don't have to rewire anything inside the box to accommodate different wiring for different controllers.
svt_lightning
Dec 24 2008, 08:51 AM
yes the 3 are covered but I would like I say find out if I can use my logitech PS2 Cordless Action Controller I think I'm going to post up if anyone has tried to use it on the tro. Or I might just have to buy a regular PS2. I wouldn't have such a problem if logitch or any company made a good D-pad PC controller all the ones I had sucked.
As for NES, SNES and Gen well MOBO doesn't come with the opt I'm assuming so I have to find the plugs and where would I have these apt plus into the MOBO? or somewhere else? hm so no company makes a trio for NES, SNES, Gen for the USB?
ken_cinder
Dec 24 2008, 10:29 PM
Well if you buy the Trio for Cube/Dreamcast controllers, you can just test the PS2 wireless.........if it doesn't work, use a wired pad.
As for the others, I don't understand what you posted (Slow down? lol). Do you mean you don't have a parallel port?
I don't have one on my new PC either, but you can pick up a Parallel port PCI card on Newegg for less than $10 and tada you have one.
If you're comfortable wiring them up and soldering, you REALLY should do it yourself. It's satisfying doing it yourself, and a whole lot cheaper.
svt_lightning
Dec 25 2008, 01:56 AM
sorry lol i really getting close to buildying my emulation PC all i need is the case and PSU and speaking of that I posted up my specs to show people at the forum where im in charge of the emulation section (sad huh? lol). And they said 700W might be high 500-600 is around where i might be. tell me why i need 700W i want to explain to them
well if i buy that card where is that going to connect to a USB? or where?
ken_cinder
Dec 25 2008, 03:17 AM
It's a PCI card, goes inside the computer in a PCI slot.
700w is playing it safe, you don't want to barely meet the requirements. You could get away with 600 safely, but if in the future you wind up with 4 hard drives..........
You calculated 430 with just the motherboard, CPU, RAM and 1 hard drive and video card. Those specs are for standard average load.........500w isn't going to cut it with an optical drive, case fans and any other expansion cards.
svt_lightning
Dec 25 2008, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (IJTF_Cinder @ Dec 24 2008, 07:17 PM)

It's a PCI card, goes inside the computer in a PCI slot.
700w is playing it safe, you don't want to barely meet the requirements. You could get away with 600 safely, but if in the future you wind up with 4 hard drives..........
You calculated 430 with just the motherboard, CPU, RAM and 1 hard drive and video card. Those specs are for standard average load.........500w isn't going to cut it with an optical drive, case fans and any other expansion cards.
ya where in the computer? the MOBO it goes in or where i thought it works like though broadband cards? you plug n play. i guess not
ok i am a explian that to them well + seen some 650 for a far price 700 they dont have that many choices at newegg or tigerdirect
ken_cinder
Dec 26 2008, 02:02 AM
If you have a larger selection of 650w, that's fine. It depends on the manufacturer, 700w was just a base to work from.
svt_lightning
Dec 28 2008, 08:30 AM
NameUser
Dec 29 2008, 12:26 AM
I haven't read what you two have been talking about in-full, but it seems a tad more complicated that it has to be (no offense).
http://retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=79I bought the NES USB converter from here, and it works like a dream. The same level of comfort I experienced while playing my actual NES unit on my floor years ago is reproduced in its entirety when I use this. It's a mite pricey, but with it comes the luxury of using one of your very own NES controllers, as well as a commendable portability factor. I've had mine for almost two years and have never unwound the cord; it fits into my front shirt-pocket.
I totally suggest it.
ken_cinder
Dec 29 2008, 01:02 AM
$22 + shipping for something you can make with $2 worth of parts and 5 minutes of your time is hardly what Id call worth it.
Anyone half competent with a soldering iron (You don't even need one actually if you can get the right kind of electrical connectors) can wire an NES pad up to a parallel cable.
PLUS that adapter you listed, is $22 for NES ONLY. What about all the other controllers you can hook up the way I suggested, by simply making a box with the parallel cable wired to 2 or more db9 serial ports inside.
This stuff is dead simple, and by buying adapters for all those controllers you're looking at over $100 versus MAYBE $10 if you built a multi box.
I'm building my own soon, and I'll throw a thread up here with pics so you can see just how simple it really is.
@svt_lightning - Yes that is EXACTLY what you would need.
svt_lightning
Dec 29 2008, 07:41 AM
1+^^ I agree that is alot of $$ for just a NES controller. I'm not saying it doesn't do the job but for less then 20 bucks I bet I can get out a NES,SNES, and sega controller for less, but thanks for the help though
ya that sticky "HOW TO"" would be alot of help man I reconmmend making one. great well I got everything except the MOBO, case oo ya and ram plus that card as well. I'm just trying to avoid paying for shipping but I'm close to building my parts will come in mon or tues Ill post my specs in the other thread
svt_lightning
Jan 4 2009, 01:49 AM
hey i was wondering if my PS3 controller can work with my PC wireless i have the hack that works with the USB cord but it be nice to use it wireless
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