Blade22
Oct 6 2008, 05:45 AM
hi,
i m a newbie in this forum
and this is my thread regarding the title.
whenever i try to play KOF2001 or KOF2003 or Samurai Showdown 5
the game load upto 100% but when initialising message comes a pop-up message comes
which says: "Failed to allocate #####bytes src/mame/machine/neocrpt.c:535"
where ##### is some integers which i dont remember..
pls help i desperately wants 2 play these games
Robert
Oct 6 2008, 08:54 AM
Sounds like your computer doesn't have enough RAM.
Or else the emulator is buggy.
Try a different emulator.
Blade22
Oct 6 2008, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (Robert @ Oct 6 2008, 08:54 AM)

Sounds like your computer doesn't have enough RAM.
Or else the emulator is buggy.
Try a different emulator.
What is the minimum RAM required for it to work...
Btw I have played all this 6 months ago in the same emulater...
I have downloaded MAMEFX32 and MAMEUI32 they also didnt worked well and i have one doubt they didnt
have mameplib.dll file in the root directory but it is there in ash-build MAME ? why is it so ?
Agozer
Oct 6 2008, 11:02 AM
Because IIRC, Ash is based on MAME Plus!, not MAMEFX or MAMEUI.
Robert
Oct 6 2008, 11:15 AM
Yes, MAME plus! derivatives have that extra file.
Blade22
Oct 6 2008, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Oct 6 2008, 11:02 AM)

Because IIRC, Ash is based on MAME Plus!, not MAMEFX or MAMEUI.
What is IIRC ?
Is it true that the bootleg version of a original game is made for low-end PCs such as PIII.
and moreover can we play a game thru its bootleg copy only?
What difference is there in these roms such as KOF 10th anniversary spl,KOF 10th unique,etc with the original
version ?
Agozer
Oct 6 2008, 05:36 PM
IIRC = If I Recall/Remember Correctly. Bootlegs of arcade games have nothing to do with PCs, nor to they affect any perceived performance.
Bootlegs are usually made with cheaper parts (PCB's, chips etc.) and perhaps contain some edited graphics, thus being hacks. Bootlegs are in essence, cheap knock-offs of the original product.
Changes in the likes of KOF10th Anniversary and other include edited graphics and music in some parts of the game, edited palettes different or slightly altered gameplay elements, no name a few.
I suggest you take a look at MAWS (http://www.mameworld.net/maws/) and read for yourself.
Robert
Oct 7 2008, 06:12 AM
Sometimes the original has encrypted roms, and requires extra memory to decode them; where as the bootleg may already be decrypted. The only difference is more memory is needed (for the original version) before the game starts. After that, they are the same.
Blade22
Oct 7 2008, 06:41 AM
QUOTE (Robert @ Oct 7 2008, 06:12 AM)

Sometimes the original has encrypted roms, and requires extra memory to decode them; where as the bootleg may already be decrypted. The only difference is more memory is needed (for the original version) before the game starts. After that, they are the same.
thanx for the info...
i've downloaded "rage of the dragons (rotd.zip)"
but after auditing the game in MAME PLus it says incorrect length for 264-m1.bin & 264-m1-decripted.bin
they were of 64KB then i tweaked them & made them to size 128KB but now it gives error message dat\
incorrect value SHA1....something like this only...is this game not playable on MAME
I have one more doubt can i play the MAME roms such as the neogeo games (KOF,Samurai Showdown)
in some other emulator such as NeoRageX or any other...if yes then what the method ?
Agozer
Oct 7 2008, 08:57 AM
You don't have the proper MAME set for ROTD.
As for other Neo-Geo emulators, the likes of FBA, Nebula and Kawaks work with MAME sets. You shouldn't bother with NeoRAGEx unless you happen to appreciate really old emulators (also, NeoRAGEx doesn't work with encrypted sets and doesn't use MAME sets nor the MAME Neo-Geo BIOS set).
Robert
Oct 7 2008, 09:40 AM
Yep, your rotd.zip is out of date.
NeorageX is only for decrypted sets that don't do banking, in other words, the older (pre-1999) sets. Some newer sets work, but you'll need to do some trial-and-error testing. As Agozer said, it has a lot of disadvantages, such as needing special "Neogeo" sets (not MAME sets).
Blade22
Oct 7 2008, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Oct 7 2008, 08:57 AM)

You don't have the proper MAME set for ROTD.
As for other Neo-Geo emulators, the likes of FBA, Nebula and Kawaks work with MAME sets. Yousohludn't bother with NeoRAGEx unless you happen to appreciate really old emulators (also, NeoRAGEx doesn't work with encrypted sets and doesn't use MAME sets nor the MAME Neo-Geo BIOS set).
Nebula works...
I've seen in some website dat renaming all the .bin files to .rom & then zipping them works in nebula or
kawaks is it true ?
Robert
Oct 7 2008, 12:08 PM
Nebula is old, that's why it works. The rom requirements for MAME have changed since then.
MAME, Nebula and Kawaks require that the roms have the correct CRC32, the actual names don't mean much. Renaming, therefore, won't make any difference.
However, NeorageX only uses filename, and the roms must end with .rom - maybe that's where the confusion lies.
Agozer
Oct 7 2008, 03:35 PM
All post-1999 games need their P1 or M1 rom to be hacked if one wishes to run the games in NeoRAGEx.
Blade22
Oct 8 2008, 06:47 AM
thanx for all your replies..
can i add the new-games list in the old mame version...

??
Robert
Oct 8 2008, 06:55 AM
MAME can't be modified by the end-user.
Unless you feel like changing source code and compiling it.
Blade22
Oct 10 2008, 04:38 AM
Finally got all games 2 work (KOF,SS)...
I used to set the game timings from 60sec to infinity and also the difficulty level in KOF2003 through settings
menu in the game.But I forgot the key to access the menu
Could somebody pls tell me the exact key for the same
Agozer
Oct 10 2008, 10:29 AM
You should be able to find it in the Readme. Usually the Test Menu is accessed via F2.
Blade22
Oct 13 2008, 04:38 AM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Oct 10 2008, 10:29 AM)

You should be able to find it in the Readme. Usually the Test Menu is accessed via F2.
But that menu u mentioned is for different purpose. I m 100% sure it was there but i forgot.if anybody
in this forum knows then pls post it here.
Agozer
Oct 13 2008, 10:22 AM
If you mean KOF2003's own options menu, just switch the game into Console mode and you'll see it. Only the Test menu and the game's own Options menu can be used to change the difficulty, time, the number of rounds, etc.
Blade22
Oct 14 2008, 05:14 AM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Oct 13 2008, 10:22 AM)

just switch the game into Console mode and you'll see it.
Console mode ??? how to do that..
Agozer
Oct 14 2008, 09:30 AM
Every Neo-Geo game has both an Arcade mode and a Console mode built-in. The arcade mode is just what it says, with coin inputs and all that. Console mode is the one with an options menu, often a practice mode, four continues, etc. etc.
It's been a while, but you can switch to Neo-Geo Console mode in MAME by switching to the Neo-Geo AES BIOS, or through the DIP settings in MAME's in-game menu. My memory fails me, so someone else can fill in.
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