[UPDATE] In-game XMB coming June 10? Posted on June 1st, 2008 at 00:31 EDT Earlier this month we reported that trophies would be coming to the PlayStation 3 in the next system update, firmware 2.4. Recently other news outlets have been reporting similar tips, stating that not only will trophies be available, but full in-game XMB and use of custom in-game soundtracks.
According to Gaming-Age.com, PS3 users can expect such features as universal friends lists and in-game messaging. Also it's been confirmed that Sony already has a title with trophy support on the way. Sony's Official PlayStation website for upcoming Pixeljunk title, PixelJunk™ Eden, has been listed to support the new trophy system.
"The SDK 2.40 will be available to dev. late in June. The actual Firmware 2.40 might see the light of day a lot sooner (my personal guess would be launch aligned or slightly before MGS4 )." - stated PSU’s forum insider.
Also with the addition of improved Audio/Video communication, it's safe to say Sony is finally providing it's users with a better online community, nearing the quality of Microsoft's Xbox Live.
Stay tuned to PSU.com for more information.
UPDATE:
Videogaming247 has obtained some new tidbits of information regarding the above story.
-Sony is currently shifting through the PlayStation 3's library of games in order to see if the XMB is fully compatible or not. It is expected the new menu system, in-game messaging etc will function in all games, though the current black menu screen will likely be retained for the majority of titles.
-User music is only included in new development tools, which have only just been distributed to coders. Therefore, existing games won't utilize the feature unless they are patched to do so.
-The same applies to the new trophy system; developers have only just obtained the tools necessary to input the feature into their software, so it'll be a while until they show up in games.
-Some elements of the XMB won't be usable in-game until after the next firmware update, such as the photo viewer.
UPDATE #2:
According to PlayStationLifestyle.net, Sony plans to release firmware 2.4 on June 10, two days prior to the release of Metal Gear Solid 4. This would make sense as we have already stated that the firmware update was planned to arrive around the same time as the launch of MGS4.
Guess what? That's right, Sony's actually trying to be a good company and come out with features we need. Thanks Sony, I'll give praise on June 10th.
GodPigeon
Jun 2 2008, 12:20 PM
THATS what im talkin about!
Inky
Jun 2 2008, 01:03 PM
QUOTE
NEARING the quality of Microsoft's Xbox Live.
good job sony, it only a year and a half to NEARLY catch up. pfft.
BlackKnight
Jun 2 2008, 01:16 PM
And neither an In-game XMB nor unified friends lists do Xbox Lives make
Sony, online, isn't even close.
GodPigeon
Jun 2 2008, 08:59 PM
Only one thing about this kinda freaks me out, that could easily be a fake. Could simply be a video
Gouken
Jun 2 2008, 09:42 PM
QUOTE (Inky @ Jun 2 2008, 05:03 AM)
QUOTE
NEARING the quality of Microsoft's Xbox Live.
good job sony, it only a year and a half to NEARLY catch up. pfft.
QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Jun 2 2008, 05:16 AM)
And neither an In-game XMB nor unified friends lists do Xbox Lives make
Sony, online, isn't even close.
Damn xbots, go and enjoy your RROD.
Inky
Jun 2 2008, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (Gouken @ Jun 2 2008, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (Inky @ Jun 2 2008, 05:03 AM)
QUOTE
NEARING the quality of Microsoft's Xbox Live.
good job sony, it only a year and a half to NEARLY catch up. pfft.
QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Jun 2 2008, 05:16 AM)
And neither an In-game XMB nor unified friends lists do Xbox Lives make
Sony, online, isn't even close.
Damn xbots, go and enjoy your RROD.
lol I completely enjoyed my RRoD for the 20 minutes I had it before I fixed it with literally 9 cents. I'll be honest.. I almost bought a PS3 today at Costco.... but I couldn't think of one game I wanted to play on it. I would say MGS4.... but I hear its 50% cutscenes...... no thanks.
Gouken
Jun 2 2008, 10:58 PM
QUOTE (Inky @ Jun 2 2008, 02:04 PM)
QUOTE (Gouken @ Jun 2 2008, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (Inky @ Jun 2 2008, 05:03 AM)
QUOTE
NEARING the quality of Microsoft's Xbox Live.
good job sony, it only a year and a half to NEARLY catch up. pfft.
QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Jun 2 2008, 05:16 AM)
And neither an In-game XMB nor unified friends lists do Xbox Lives make
Sony, online, isn't even close.
Damn xbots, go and enjoy your RROD.
lol I completely enjoyed my RRoD for the 20 minutes I had it before I fixed it with literally 9 cents. I'll be honest.. I almost bought a PS3 today at Costco.... but I couldn't think of one game I wanted to play on it. I would say MGS4.... but I hear its 50% cutscenes...... no thanks.
It's the same as any MGS game. Story loaded cutscenes you can't understand half the time, and brilliant directing. If you didn't like any previous MGS you probably won't like this one.
Sorry for snapping, but I don't go into the 360 forum with bad news and 'lol' everywhere. It seems when I have good news about the system, people just come in here and bash it. It's the PS3 forum, for PS3 people. If you don't like the system get out.
gavin19
Jun 2 2008, 11:11 PM
lol. I neither like nor dislike the PS3. I don't get why a game that is padded out with so many cut scenes is being touted as the best thing since sliced bread, and a PS3 showpiece?
If I wanted 'brilliant directing' I'd watch Heat. I prefer games to focus on 'brilliant gameplay' instead.
BlackKnight
Jun 3 2008, 08:41 AM
QUOTE (gavin19 @ Jun 3 2008, 09:11 AM)
lol. I neither like nor dislike the PS3. I don't get why a game that is padded out with so many cut scenes is being touted as the best thing since sliced bread, and a PS3 showpiece?
If I wanted 'brilliant directing' I'd watch Heat. I prefer games to focus on 'brilliant gameplay' instead.
I love the MGS story, but as for how it is directed, the long, sloppy indulgent crap that passes for Kojima's 'direction' would never make its way film.
And why is it the almighty PS3 showcase? Because the PS3 has nothing else.
QUOTE (Gouken @ Jun 3 2008, 07:42 AM)
xbots
Can you please stop using this word at the mention of any PS3 criticism, please?
Gouken
Jun 4 2008, 01:57 AM
QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Jun 3 2008, 12:41 AM)
QUOTE (gavin19 @ Jun 3 2008, 09:11 AM)
lol. I neither like nor dislike the PS3. I don't get why a game that is padded out with so many cut scenes is being touted as the best thing since sliced bread, and a PS3 showpiece?
If I wanted 'brilliant directing' I'd watch Heat. I prefer games to focus on 'brilliant gameplay' instead.
I love the MGS story, but as for how it is directed, the long, sloppy indulgent crap that passes for Kojima's 'direction' would never make its way film.
And why is it the almighty PS3 showcase? Because the PS3 has nothing else.
QUOTE (Gouken @ Jun 3 2008, 07:42 AM)
xbots
Can you please stop using this word at the mention of any PS3 criticism, please?
Anyone can find fault in any game. Halo sucks because it's unoriginal. Bioshock sucks because it's too dark and not enough plasmids. Mass Effect sucks because the loading times are horrible. GTA sucks because it has drunk driving in it.
See, I can point out things I don't like about games too. Doesn't mean all aren't great games. Well except Halo. That just really didn't do it for me.
And why can't I use that word? Xbot.
BlackKnight
Jun 4 2008, 04:59 AM
QUOTE (Gouken @ Jun 4 2008, 11:57 AM)
Anyone can find fault in any game. Halo sucks because it's unoriginal. Bioshock sucks because it's too dark and not enough plasmids. Mass Effect sucks because the loading times are horrible. GTA sucks because it has drunk driving in it.
See, I can point out things I don't like about games too. Doesn't mean all aren't great games. Well except Halo. That just really didn't do it for me.
What's your point.. ?
QUOTE (Gouken @ Jun 4 2008, 11:57 AM)
And why can't I use that word? Xbot.
I just asked you not to.
Why? Because it makes you seem the biggest fanboy here.
GodPigeon
Jun 4 2008, 10:00 PM
Well i guess PS3 news here doesnt get far without locks
BlackKnight
Jun 4 2008, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (Teck @ Jun 5 2008, 07:04 AM)
in before the lock! Stop fighting both of you are fanboys.
Also Teck maybe you should think through your posts a bit more... I'd hate to have to put that down as an off topic personal attack there.
Gouken
Jun 5 2008, 01:04 AM
BlackKnight, I call a truce. I admit the 360 in itself is a great gaming console. It's got power, a great online service, and enough games to go against any competitor.
That being said, I still have my gripes with the company, but not the console. Actually, I have never hated any console released (except the virtual boy), just the stupid decisions companies make. I don't like how microsoft rushed the 360 into production. Hell, if they made a better, solid version of the original xbox I would have bought it.
But they didn't, which is why i bought a PS3 because of the possibilities. I know Sony has it's faults, trust me I hate waiting for games, online services, promises to come true. I hate it all. But I chose what i chose and I'll respect your choice as well.
So I'm going to stop being the typical fanboy.
Nuff' said.
Wizard
Jun 5 2008, 01:50 AM
A Hardcore gamer holds know vice towards any company. I just happen to be poor and I laugh at Sony's attempts at being a good at PR when it's obvious they need more work. Same goes for MS. At least their PR is midway decent.
BlackKnight
Jun 5 2008, 01:53 AM
Personally I've had PlayStation branded machines for more than the last 10 years. I ignored the 360 for almost 2 years just because I was waiting for the PS3 to pick up its games, drop its price and all that. But it didn't.
I don't hate on the machine so much as I'm disappointed with it. I'd love to play MGS4 and Tekken 6 and I'd love Sony to do something to help convince me to buy the thing. That's why it annoys me everytime its complex innards result in a game being delayed or running worse than on the 360, and everytime something like Home or the XMB gets talked up when its still playing catchup in terms of functionality.
So yeh I'm platform agnostic and would like to own both. The problem is whenever one of these topics comes up, it is just so much easier to take the 360's side- right now it is just wiping the floor with the PS3 in every regard. Let's see if that changes in the next 3 months.
Gouken
Jun 5 2008, 02:07 AM
QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Jun 4 2008, 05:53 PM)
Personally I've had PlayStation branded machines for more than the last 10 years. I ignored the 360 for almost 2 years just because I was waiting for the PS3 to pick up its games, drop its price and all that. But it didn't.
I don't hate on the machine so much as I'm disappointed with it. I'd love to play MGS4 and Tekken 6 and I'd love Sony to do something to help convince me to buy the thing. That's why it annoys me everytime its complex innards result in a game being delayed or running worse than on the 360, and everytime something like Home or the XMB gets talked up when its still playing catchup in terms of functionality.
So yeh I'm platform agnostic and would like to own both. The problem is whenever one of these topics comes up, it is just so much easier to take the 360's side- right now it is just wiping the floor with the PS3 in every regard. Let's see if that changes in the next 3 months.
It'll take more than 3 months I think. Sure Sony's online is getting better, but MGS4 is the only blockbuster until years end. And I'm pretty sure all the games coming out at the end of this year a non-PS3 gamer won't be interested in.
When the Final Fantasy's come out and maybe Killzone 2, maybe, then I think the PS3 will pick up some steam.
BlackKnight
Jun 5 2008, 04:08 AM
I meant to say 6 months but MGS4 is really all that's that big. Is FFXIII even coming this year in English? GT5 is another good one but that's not a 2008 title either. Also I dunno how or why they hype Killzone 2 up when Killzone 1 was such a bomb.
That said, the 360 doesn't have any AAA exclusives left this year either does it?
GodPigeon
Jun 5 2008, 05:39 AM
360 has Gears 2 coming soon.
Gouken
Jun 5 2008, 05:43 AM
QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Jun 4 2008, 08:08 PM)
I meant to say 6 months but MGS4 is really all that's that big. Is FFXIII even coming this year in English? GT5 is another good one but that's not a 2008 title either. Also I dunno how or why they hype Killzone 2 up when Killzone 1 was such a bomb.
That said, the 360 doesn't have any AAA exclusives left this year either does it?
Umm, Fable 2. The first one got high praise so I would expect it from the second one as well. I know there are more, like Halo Wars, but most are new IP's starting.
PS3 has Resistance 2 at the end of the year. Which is touted to take great advantage of the PS3's capability to stream textures instead of load everything in RAM. I loved the first one, but as I stated previously, unless you have a PS3 and played it, it's not a big deal to you.
FFXIII is something of an enigma. I really can't tell you when it's supposed to come out. I hear Squenix wants a worldwide release, then I hear they aren't doing that. I know Vs. XIII is definitely coming out in 2009 as opposed to 2008.
Wizard
Jun 5 2008, 05:52 AM
There is also the problem of PS3's list of games that are hit or miss (Thus far, until the release of MGS4). Only a few titles are the on the "must have" lists (This list is more or less MGS4 + FF13's core title, not any of it's spin-offs, the majority of gamers seem to want those 2 more so then any other title). Even if Resistance 2 possible use of streaming data instead of loading everything to ram (How the hell is that gonna happen? Considering a PS3's blu-ray drive is only 2x, while those of us with Blu-Ray players will see an increase in drive speed while those on PS3s will most likely be stuck on 2x blu-ray drives for years to come), the first title, while it made some people's top 10 lists, it still too alot of flack for being too generic and boring on setting, and not offering anything unique in terms of gameplay. Which is, as many people know, a difficult formula to get in FPS games. I do agree that the setting, levels and everything else is generic and not very inspiring. For the life of me, CANNOT get into Resistance at all. I'm a heavy FPS nut as well, and I cannot get into Resistance. As much as I love the idea of WW2 cut short because of an alien invasion as it reminds me alot of some books I've read previously. Dream on paper, but fails at reality (Reality being the game).
Gouken
Jun 5 2008, 07:31 AM
QUOTE (Wizard @ Jun 4 2008, 09:52 PM)
There is also the problem of PS3's list of games that are hit or miss (Thus far, until the release of MGS4). Only a few titles are the on the "must have" lists (This list is more or less MGS4 + FF13's core title, not any of it's spin-offs, the majority of gamers seem to want those 2 more so then any other title). Even if Resistance 2 possible use of streaming data instead of loading everything to ram (How the hell is that gonna happen? Considering a PS3's blu-ray drive is only 2x, while those of us with Blu-Ray players will see an increase in drive speed while those on PS3s will most likely be stuck on 2x blu-ray drives for years to come), the first title, while it made some people's top 10 lists, it still too alot of flack for being too generic and boring on setting, and not offering anything unique in terms of gameplay. Which is, as many people know, a difficult formula to get in FPS games. I do agree that the setting, levels and everything else is generic and not very inspiring. For the life of me, CANNOT get into Resistance at all. I'm a heavy FPS nut as well, and I cannot get into Resistance. As much as I love the idea of WW2 cut short because of an alien invasion as it reminds me alot of some books I've read previously. Dream on paper, but fails at reality (Reality being the game).
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In a recent live interview with Ted Price, president of Insomniac Games, all new details were revealed on their upcoming PS3 exclusive FPS, Resistance 2. In order to cover all the details that were given in the interview, we'll summarize it into a quick list, and for those of you who want to read more, click here for Eurogamer's interview.
New Resistance 2 Details:
- Intel Documents will be back expanding the franchise's lore - More of Hale's background revealed and general history in the game's in-game story as well as the cinematics - Co-op campaign will also help to flesh out the world with its separate story, although expect no big cinematics - Many new weapons available in Resistance 2, mini-gun and marksman only ones revealed so far - Streaming hi-res textures, detail maps, new lighting system, new effects system, better normal mapping, better specular response, redone shaders and lots of behind-the-scenes stuff - NO LOAD TIMES! - Bigger "levels" and "chapters" - Resistance 2 will run in 720p at 30fps - Resistance 2 will feature Trophy and Home support - Great improvements coming to the PSN - Resistance 2 to be as long or longer than Resistance FOM
From the sound of it, Resistance 2 is shaping up to be one spectacular sequel. Stay tuned for more information.
It's a non-traditional way of processing. Seeing as the Cell is really fast and great at multitasking (if programed for correctly) they are able to do this. If you've ever played Uncharted: Drakes Fortune you'd see how much this feature is utilized.
The game engine really needs to be built from the ground up to take full advantage of streaming I believe.
Inky
Jun 5 2008, 07:42 AM
never believe a company's claims of no load times. they never come through in the end..
Ryuken
Jun 5 2008, 10:51 AM
i agree wit Gouken this is the PS3 section so ps3 fanboyism is allowed in here and xbots are not. Isn't that one of the reason for separate forums?
AkihiroZi
Jun 5 2008, 11:34 AM
My friend tried very hard to get me into resistance, it felt so generic, I was falling asleep during our coop play.
Reasons I want a Ps3: MGS4, FFXIII (Mebe FFVII remake?), FFXI (I've been wanting to get back into it for a month now) God of War 3, Kingdom Hearts 3 (the last 2 are at least a year and a half from release), damn, this isn't meant to be insulting but somebody help me find more reasons to get a Ps3. (Blu-Ray is also nice).
Reasons I want a X360: Too Human, Fable 2, GoW2, FFXI (also playable), Blue Dragon, gah, I'm stuck here too now....
Wii is mine no matter what.
Reasons I want a PC: Guild Wars 2, FFXI (damn this is everywhere), Movie-editing feature.
Meh, I'm compfused !
Wizard
Jun 5 2008, 10:33 PM
But what I'm afriad of is that Sony isn't going to pull a Nintendo suddenly where every first and second party title is a title worth having. Like I said, even with it's technological leap, the first game still recieved hate to the hype. It did not live up to what it was suppose to be. Sony's first and second party franchises are medicore at best with only a few titles worthy of having.
I am still highly skeptical that they've eliminated loadings completely. Cell is a powerful PowerPC processor, but it is still difficult to program for with it's processing order.
(Still haven't played Uncharted, no PS3 to borrow and no one has the game)
Gouken
Jun 6 2008, 06:12 AM
QUOTE (Wizard @ Jun 5 2008, 02:33 PM)
But what I'm afriad of is that Sony isn't going to pull a Nintendo suddenly where every first and second party title is a title worth having. Like I said, even with it's technological leap, the first game still recieved hate to the hype. It did not live up to what it was suppose to be. Sony's first and second party franchises are medicore at best with only a few titles worthy of having.
I am still highly skeptical that they've eliminated loadings completely. Cell is a powerful PowerPC processor, but it is still difficult to program for with it's processing order.
(Still haven't played Uncharted, no PS3 to borrow and no one has the game)
I own uncharted. There is a 30 second load in the beginning, after that you don't see a single load screen. i thought it was loading while the FMV's were going but you can skip them totally and not a hitch. From what I see the only time you may see loading is when drake walks from a huge underground area into the light, which takes all of 3 seconds.
The hard drive is used, but it's only to cache data. Nothing needs to be installed. That all said, just play the game. Let me know what you think about the presentation, story... everything. it really is an amazng game.
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