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fumanchu
use this thread to post about games/roms you would like to see in coinops.
if some games play better with sound disabled like for example the mortal kombat series,then post them and let BP know.

1)new games you want to add.

2)new game with sound disabled and vmm turned on(please post vmm settings if turned on.)


please try and stay on topic. thumbsup.gif

if we get some good suggestions then we should see an update in the form of a patch,so get posting eveyone.

games added with sound disabled.
mortal kombat1,2,3 and ultimate
nba jams
narc
rampage world tour.
wwf wrestlemania
2v2 open ice.
strikers 1945 2and3.
tabsaid
2) the obvious MK and NBA jam series, but I'd also love to see Midways NHL 2on2 Open Ice (my fav game) I ran it in Mame128plus (on standard 64mb xbox) with random VM settings. Just turned things up until it booted so I do not have proper settings for it, sorry.

Great idea configuring everything to auto launch with proper settings, makes life easy.

- wwf wrestlemania would be a nice add too.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
List so far would be MK 1 2 3 , NBA jams, Narc, Rampage World Tour ill look into others pin these to the top fam
gavin19
The info screen isn't available any longer so I can't tell which games have sound disabled, and which games have non-working sound.

I randomly started a game called Riding Fight just a moment ago, never seen it before in my life. There is sound as the Taito screen comes up, but there is no in-game sound. I couldn't check to see if the sound was non-working or if it had been deliberately disabled in order to get it to run smoothly.

No big deal.

For any of these games which will have sound disabled by default, will there be an option to enable sound if the person so wishes?
fumanchu
bp also include ultimate mortal kombat3.

sound disabled and vmm on.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
No sound wont be able to be turned on its for games that wont play properly with sound on as it makes the frame rate drop to an unaceptble level..if it has sound issues but the game plays at an aceptable rate and sound isnt painfull it will be left on. It basically for new games to be added that didnt get added cause you have to disable the sound for it to play like MK3 plays at 30frames a sec with no sound and about 2 frames a sec with sound

Ultimate wont be a problem so pin it there fam
add wwf wrestlemania and 2v2 Open Ice to play with no sound they both look good but wont play with sound enabled at more than 5 frames a sec

So Far

CoinOPS COMBUSTION
you have only a few days its all going...All games you see above have been added



the blue ones play without sound...ill probably remove the blue and set it to the classic games so you can better see what are the big games and what isnt.
Favs will override this with a Gold color of course
BritneysPAIRSisaGOD
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 6 2008, 01:36 AM) *
No sound wont be able to be turned on its for games that wont play properly with sound on as it makes the frame rate drop to an unaceptble level..if it has sound issues but the game plays at an aceptable rate and sound isnt painfull it will be left on. It basically for new games to be added that didnt get added cause you have to disable the sound for it to play like MK3 plays at 30frames a sec with no sound and about 2 frames a sec with sound

Ultimate wont be a problem so pin it there fam
add wwf wrestlemania and 2v2 Open Ice to play with no sound they both look good but wont play with sound enabled at more than 5 frames a sec

So Far




if you can get ALL of these games PERFECTLY running like ultimate mk3 with sound all i can say is WOW!!! even if you make a stand alone MK player !! that would be SWEEEEET just like the KI 1 and 2 player they BOTH run PERFECTLY!...is there away to get ultimate mk3 to run with sound perfectly???
fumanchu
cant see the mortal kombats working with sound on the 0.84 core.

mameox 0.72 is the emu that plays all mks and ultimate with sound as it has a speed hack,for the midway drivers.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
is there source for that emu i can patch in a hack if so...by the way there is no sound hack for .72 it was incorrect sound but required no processing then they made it perfect and it required massive processing and to them its about accuracy
fumanchu
i meant a speed hack for the emulation of the game not the actual sound.
so that it could be played with sound.
BritneysPAIRSisaGOD
QUOTE (fumanchu @ Apr 6 2008, 10:31 AM) *
i meant a speed hack for the emulation of the game not the actual sound.
so that it could be played with sound.



there has to be away to get it with full sound and speed KI is a more complex then any MK game
fumanchu
link about speedhack

http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25036

ki is a standalone emulator just for those 2 specific games.
mame is a lot more complex.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
is there any source for this build
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Also need a list of stuff fum... a summery as im preparing a patch soon like about 4 days away... the big stuff is done if you know what I mean
fumanchu
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 6 2008, 11:52 AM) *
is there any source for this build

couldnt findany sourcedode for kixxx,just mameox0.72.


strikers 1945 2 and 3 with sound disabled,could you add please.
tried them on arcades,played pretty well i thought.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Both made it in and are inserted

s1945ii and s1945iii

didnt think they played that quick smile.gif

incase you ask primal rage is rejected its still glitchy if you want I can set it to play automatically without sound as it speeds it up but I dont think it should go in.
gavin19
QUOTE (fumanchu @ Apr 6 2008, 12:06 PM) *
strikers 1945 2 and 3 with sound disabled,could you add please.
tried them on arcades,played pretty well i thought.


Try out a few of these games like Strikers 1945 2/3 via Mame on your PC, then you will see they play nowhere near how they are meant to. Choppy shmups are a waste of time.

There are one or two others, can't remember them off the top of my head. Dragon Blaze is one though that needs removed. The slowdown is apparent and intrusive from Stage 1-1. Unless disabled sound helps any then I would seriously remove it.
Wugy
I had asked to watch these games, but only 1 or 2 have been added:

Ashita no joe (ASHNOJOE.ZIP)
Asura Blade - Sword of dynasty (ASURABLD.ZIP)
Battle k-Road (BTKROAD.ZIP)---------------------(Fantastic game!)
Bubble 2000 (BUBL2000.ZIP)
Burnig rival (BRIVAL.ZIP)
Capcom sports club
Change air blade (CAIRBLAD.ZIP)
Dead angle (DEADANG.ZIP)
Diver boy (DIVERBOY.ZIP)
Don Den Lover Vol. 1 -----------------------------(I thought to find it...)
Dragon ball Z (DBZ.ZIP)
Dragon might (DRAGOONA.ZIP)
Dungeon magic (DUNGEONM.ZIP)
Gals panic (GALPANIC.ZIP)----------------------(isn't Fantasia..)
Geostorm (GEOSTORM.ZIP)
Holosseum (HOLO.ZIP)
Kuri Kinton (KURIKINJ.ZIP)
Mach breakers (MACHBRKR.ZIP)
Martial champion (MTICHAMP.ZIP)
Mobile Suit Gundam (MSGUNDAM.ZIP)
Mobile Suit Gundam Ex Revue (GUNDAMEX.ZIP)
More More Plus (MOREMORP.ZIP)--------------------(Fantastic game!)
One-two (ONETWO.ZIP)
Oriental legend (ORLD105K.ZIP)(ORLD111C.ZIP)(ORLEGNDE.ZIP)(ORLEGNDC.ZIP)(ORLEGEND.ZIP)
Othello derby (OTHIDRBY.ZIP)
Outfexies (OUTFXIES.ZIP)
Pang poms (PANGPOMS.ZIP)
Pass (PASS.ZIP)
Peggle (PEGGLE.ZIP)
PerfEct soldier (PSOLDIER.ZIP)
Ping pong
Pop 'n pop (POPNPOPU.ZIP)
Power instict 2 (USA) (PWRINS2.ZIP)--------------(work fine!)
Prime time fighter (PRMTMFGT.ZIP)
Pulirula (PULIRLA.ZIP)
Ribbit
Ring rage (RINGAGU.ZIP)
Rod-land (RODLNDTB.ZIP)
Roller games (ROLLERG.ZIP)
Scud hammer (SCUDHAMM.ZIP)
Sen-Know (SENKNOW.ZIP)
Sokonuke taisen game (SOKONUKE.ZIP)
Spider-man: The Videogame (SPIDEYJ.ZIP)
Splash! (SPLASH)
Super slam (SSLAM.ZIP)(SUPRSLAM.ZIP)
Tao taido (TAOTAIDO.ZIP)
Tattoo Assassins (TATTASSA.ZIP)------------------(Similar of Mortal Kombat! with sound!)
The Cliffhanger-Edward Randy (EDRANDJ.ZIP)

These are good games that work greatly and I tested on MAMEDox v.1.1!
I would be very happy if someone test them!

Thanks! gun2.gif
fumanchu
QUOTE (gavin19 @ Apr 6 2008, 05:26 PM) *
QUOTE (fumanchu @ Apr 6 2008, 12:06 PM) *

strikers 1945 2 and 3 with sound disabled,could you add please.
tried them on arcades,played pretty well i thought.


Try out a few of these games like Strikers 1945 2/3 via Mame on your PC, then you will see they play nowhere near how they are meant to. Choppy shmups are a waste of time.

There are one or two others, can't remember them off the top of my head. Dragon Blaze is one though that needs removed. The slowdown is apparent and intrusive from Stage 1-1. Unless disabled sound helps any then I would seriously remove it.

i dont play mame on the pc and i do find strikers 2and3 playable.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
a bit frame rate jumpy but still not to bad..... not perfect but pretty good.

I added about 15 off that list Wugu ill show you all game that made it in 24hours

Any more games now is the time if not im closing this part of the suggestion in the next day or 2..... so I can do the keymap and a few other toys smile.gif
Wugy
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 8 2008, 12:06 PM) *
I added about 15 off that list Wugy ill show you all game that made it in 24hours


Can I know what games you added?

Thanks!

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CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Added titles



2 days left to ask for games or its over for CoinOPS 2nd Credit

PS 50 percent of those games have been in for ages some under diff names but over half are allready there...SF the movies is still to choppy with no sound sorry
Wugy
Thanks BritneysPAIRS! clapping.gif clapping.gif clapping.gif

I love this games:

-Battle k-Road (Realistic fighting game!)

-Don Den Lover Vol. 1 (This game has bewitched me and my girl!)

-Oriental Legend (Don't you like this? Do you tested this game? I love the japan anime '80 years! Between roms that I have sent you, you must select the third of list. It works fine! It accepts insert coin!)

-Spider-man: The Videogame (Great game of Spider-Man!)

Please! Can you add these?
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Please!
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Thanks!
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Wugy
I have seen Mortal Kombat series in adds list, but with no sound... but Street Fighter The Movie? sad.gif
It's playable with no sound!
It's a great game! headbang.gif

Thanks!
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CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Steet Fighter the movie is very glitchy with no sound.
Siderman has been in for years
Oriental Legend is in coinops
Battle k-Road doesny play well without sound disabled
Don Den Lover Vol. 1 no idea about this one
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Steet Fighter the movie is very glitchy with no sound.
Siderman has been in for years
Oriental Legend is in coinops
Battle k-Road doesny play well without sound disabled
Don Den Lover Vol. 1 no idea about this one
bulge2
street fighter the movie is rubbish anyway - plenty of better in the series to ignore
lordpro
hi BritneysPAIRS can you add these roms?

-Strider 2 (ASIA 991213)
-Power Instinct 3 - Groove On Fight
-Cruis'n USA (rev L4.1)
-Mobile Suit Gundam EX Revue
-Soul Edge Ver. II (SO4/VER.C)
-Soul Calibur (SOC14/VER.C)
-Samurai Shodown: Warrior's Rage
-Star Wars Arcade

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Cospefogo
QUOTE (bulge2 @ Apr 9 2008, 04:01 PM) *
street fighter the movie is rubbish anyway - plenty of better in the series to ignore


I second that.
The movie and game are rubbish.

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Wugy
QUOTE (lordpro @ Apr 9 2008, 07:40 PM) *
hi BritneysPAIRS can you add these roms?

-Strider 2 (ASIA 991213)
-Power Instinct 3 - Groove On Fight
-Cruis'n USA (rev L4.1)
-Mobile Suit Gundam EX Revue
-Soul Edge Ver. II (SO4/VER.C)
-Soul Calibur (SOC14/VER.C)
-Samurai Shodown: Warrior's Rage
-Star Wars Arcade

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This games don't work on Xbox mame, they require more memory:

-Strider 2 (ASIA 991213)
-Soul Edge Ver. II (SO4/VER.C)
-Soul Calibur (SOC14/VER.C)
-Samurai Shodown: Warrior's Rage
Wugy
QUOTE (Cospefogo @ Apr 9 2008, 08:16 PM) *
QUOTE (bulge2 @ Apr 9 2008, 04:01 PM) *

street fighter the movie is rubbish anyway - plenty of better in the series to ignore


I second that.
The movie and game are rubbish.

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For the movie agree!
For the game no! The coin-op version is good! gun2.gif
Wugy
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 9 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Steet Fighter the movie is very glitchy with no sound.
Siderman has been in for years
Oriental Legend is in coinops
Battle k-Road doesny play well without sound disabled
Don Den Lover Vol. 1 no idea about this one


Sorry! blush.gif
I don't seen that some games included!
I went out head! In recent days I tested many games in MAMEDOX 1.1, approximately 10000! frusty.gif

For "Battle K-Road" I think that you can work with the function "Throttled"!
I seen that increasing "Throttled" resolves the problem of slowness, with sound on!
Please add this game, is fantastic!
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For "Don Den Lover Vol. 1", I can tell you, that this game is infinity!
Do you tested this? I sent to you!
Please add this game!
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Thanks!
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fumanchu
the arcade version of streetfighter the movie is not bad,if you disable sound,just whatever you do dont play the saturn port,meh its BAD. ph34r.gif
Wugy
QUOTE (fumanchu @ Apr 9 2008, 11:17 PM) *
the arcade version of streetfighter the movie is not bad,if you disable sound,just whatever you do dont play the saturn port,meh its BAD. ph34r.gif


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Saturn and PSX version are BAD! vb_puke.gif
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Street Fighter the Movie has been denied... But I have renamed them all and added them to the list to boot without sound. So if you add them it will work for you guys but I wont be. Ill look at love and the other one again tonight but you now have 1 day for new games if not tommorrow this time the request for this stuff is over... cheers
BritneysPAIRSisaGOD
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 10 2008, 05:14 AM) *
Street Fighter the Movie has been denied... But I have renamed them all and added them to the list to boot without sound. So if you add them it will work for you guys but I wont be. Ill look at love and the other one again tonight but you now have 1 day for new games if not tommorrow this time the request for this stuff is over... cheers



i DONT want to sound like a BROKEN record BP but . . . . how is ultimate mk 3 running and is it possible to make a stand alone player for it kind of like the sta 3 emu you made ^^
ressurectionx
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRSisaGOD @ Apr 10 2008, 01:18 AM) *
i DONT want to sound like a BROKEN record BP but . . . . how is ultimate mk 3 running and is it possible to make a stand alone player for it kind of like the sta 3 emu you made ^^



Wow. Sorry for the off-topic post, but now we've got idol worship going on here..... lol. This gets better every day.
BritneysPAIRSisaGOD
QUOTE (ressurectionx @ Apr 10 2008, 06:45 AM) *
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRSisaGOD @ Apr 10 2008, 01:18 AM) *

i DONT want to sound like a BROKEN record BP but . . . . how is ultimate mk 3 running and is it possible to make a stand alone player for it kind of like the sta 3 emu you made ^^



Wow. Sorry for the off-topic post, but now we've got idol worship going on here..... lol. This gets better every day.


i look at it this way BP is one of the ONLY people who still make,fix and continues to do stuff for the original xbox system so HECK yes! im going to support BP
fumanchu
QUOTE (ressurectionx @ Apr 10 2008, 07:45 AM) *
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRSisaGOD @ Apr 10 2008, 01:18 AM) *

i DONT want to sound like a BROKEN record BP but . . . . how is ultimate mk 3 running and is it possible to make a stand alone player for it kind of like the sta 3 emu you made ^^



Wow. Sorry for the off-topic post, but now we've got idol worship going on here..... lol. This gets better every day.

keep it ON-TOPIC!
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Once the patch is out I will look at MK etc with sound the source wasnt source but compiled versions but there still some stuff I can do. If anyone has .72 mameox source please let me know... but for now I must put in alot of new stuff the list is pretty long and I would like to do it pretty quickly and I also like a high standard. After this patch it will be bugs and keymap fixes on a real time level eg if I fix it, it will be availble that day. And maybe all midway stuff running with sound...I have added some features hidden into the build that will allow me launch external mameox.xbes and ill try and use CoinOPS to launch other builds for certain games and maybe even SF3 3rd strike or even Genisis or SNES games. But this is after the patch. Plus there still a full HD version im 95percent finished :S and I was going to redo FBAxxx GUI to better suit my simple tastes... long term goals really just to do the stuff I want
fumanchu
the launching of different systems from coinops,would be a great feature to have.
ressurectionx
Wow man. Looks like you're doing a lot of new stuff. Now if you'd just add the 400 games that take about 200MB and the ability to auto filter them out, I wouldn't even have to do any more work.

Oh... and when I figure out a fix to make 2player games alternate from controller 1 to controller 2, you can add that too and this emu will have it all.


EDITED TO ADD: Not meaning to cause anything BP. Figure I'm in a thread where it's on topic and it's just frustrating that I love 100% what you're doing and that it's just so damn close to what I want, but it feels like to be able to get where I want it's so incredibly far away. I enjoy doing this stuff and I'm really picking up on a lot. Love to be able to help you and learn so I can create the end result one day that I want. Seriously dude... I don't know if my OCD is going to let this one go until I got it done the way I envision it. That could take 5 years or a few months if I had some direction.
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
you had your change ages ago and a big one at that rx sorry im going it alone im sure you will do a great job in what ever vision you have.
ressurectionx
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 10 2008, 11:35 PM) *
you had your change ages ago and a big one at that rx sorry im going it alone im sure you will do a great job in what ever vision you have.


You never gave me any chance. Can I get a look at your source when coinops is done?
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
sorry I wont disscuss this any more RX I remember all that happened and I always knew the results of what you said... you reap the rewards of your fruit. There is a cause and effect in nature and I let you have all your say but kept a mental note for wether it was truely worth helping you and really it wasnt even close.

I remember stuff like I dont need help.....I dont have repect for your coding its party tricks....I have it wrong......about me personally and I stand by what I said you should as well and prove me wrong I want to see it happen personally
ressurectionx
The way I see it, you really don't have an option and you have to release the source.

From http://mamedev.org/license.html

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Copyright © 1997-2007, Nicola Salmoria and the MAME team
All rights reserved.

Redistribution and use of this code or any derivative works are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

Redistributions may not be sold, nor may they be used in a commercial product or activity.

Redistributions that are modified from the original source must include the complete source code, including the source code for all components used by a binary built from the modified sources. However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the executable.

Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT OWNER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.


This means the entire source to the build, not just the parts that you pick and chose to leave in like before.

Of course, you can always disregard the wishes of the people who originally developed the emulator you're borrowing.

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but you are violating the terms of use and you are denying me the ability to do what you have done with MAME from the start, which is to build on something which was already created and improve upon it the way you see fit.

Always remember that you were the first one to insult me on IM several times before I told you to take a hike, and I will not refrain from posting those conversations here for everyone to see how this really started if you persist in saying that I'm the bad guy here and that I'm to blame for this.

I would also like to say that I would discuss this with you in PMs, but you chose to ignore my PMs so I have no choice but to bring it public.

All I want is the source, and the entire source this time, and without any sabotage in it either. I don't see what the big deal is. You will be following MAMEdev's policy then, and I will never bother you again. I can figure this out on my own and learn from your changes once source is provided. I will not ask you any more questions if the source is provided when you finish CoinOPS 2, or whatever you're calling it. I will still have to make most of the adjustments in code myself as I've already invested about 100 hours changing source code myself and I'm not about to abandon my own work even if you do the right thing and provide the complete source.

As per your wishes, anything that comes out of it will not have your name associated in any way.

Regards,
~Rx
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
bull the full mamexbe is released to you and I havent altered it... launching code has nothing to do with the mame code and is a totally separate source. And I dont care anyways you where no fun to work with so yes its totally personal get over it.

I know you truely believe you are going about getting your way the correct way but I still say its basic cause and effect and im the arshole that you helped to mold
ressurectionx
QUOTE (BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 11 2008, 02:13 AM) *
bull the full mamexbe is released to you and I havent altered it... launching code has nothing to do with the mame code and is a totally separate source. And I dont care anyways you where no fun to work with so yes its totally personal get over it.


I know it's totally personal on your end. You were abrasive and abusive from the beginning. I'm truly sorry that I didn't get on my knees and call you Master, but I don't work that way. I think your idea of working with somebody who is "fun to work with" is sombody who is completely submissive and does whatever they are told and enjoys being insulted. Sorry for not being fun.

That's a real shame you feel that your entire code isn't included under the terms of service. Where would you be, or any of us for that matter, had the MAMEdev team decided never to release MAME source to the public and to hoarde it to themselves? You are reading that wrong, and because your build uses original MAME source, you are obligated by license to provide that source upon build release. It's probably a completely un-enforceable license, but if you had any honor, you would release the full source.


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAME

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Also, redistributions of modified versions (derivative works) must include the complete corresponding source code (similar to a copyleft).

There exist, however, a number of derivative versions that violate the license by not releasing the full and complete source code, including multiplayer builds that support the Kaillera server protocol, or others that add newer games.


Regards,
~Rx
CoinOPS COMBUSTION
Take care RX the source is out to some just trying for you personally to not have it...also I have just added new locks to the new build, no one else will tell but you will im sure, see a bit of a diff. Im sure you will be able to get around it...its a new challenge id put money on it you dont get around it......cause and effect yet again I left you alone completely on the last one

full source was released which is why people like HK were where they got to and by the way what he did was really good...hes a top coder.


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Ok those 2 games Wuju I say no to both sorry, one doesnt run right and the other is in japanese and not really realivant ive renamed the games for you to add and look consistant.

The new game thread is over for me.....peace
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