davos1
Feb 3 2006, 08:54 AM
My idea:
We could use the touch screen to display the web page and to have the buttons to scroll up and down. When you click on a edit box, the keyboard will show up on the touch screen so you can type into the edit box. I cannot code this so when the TCP library is released, maybe someone can use my idea?
--David
Öhr GmbH
Feb 3 2006, 12:57 PM
old idea, but im waiting for this, too, but i think a MSN, ICQ, AIM, YIM, IRC homebrew program would be also very well.
hope someone works on this.
P.S. i thought, someone was working on an msn manager and sgstair worked(never finished) on an irc program.
MaHe
Feb 3 2006, 02:43 PM
In my opinion, an IRC client with file transfer support is the best idea. Lie down in your bed, connect to FServe, download the newest Futurama episode, while it's downloading chat with your friends...

I'll TRY to code something like that myself
parrot
Feb 3 2006, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (Öhr GmbH @ Feb 3 2006, 12:57 PM)
old idea, but im waiting for this, too, but i think a MSN, ICQ, AIM, YIM, IRC homebrew program would be also very well.
hope someone works on this.
P.S. i thought, someone was working on an msn manager and sgstair worked(never finished) on an irc program.
I was gonna work on that but I can't find libgaim.
davos1
Feb 4 2006, 08:50 AM
It would also be cool if the penstroke recognition thing (http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=8385) was implemented.
[EDIT] Can anyone respond to this?
Lockwood
Feb 12 2006, 09:45 AM
sgstair
Feb 12 2006, 11:49 AM
lockwood: you're an idiot. Do you really expect to be able to make anything usable?
davos1: Yes, penstroke recognition and similar technologies will very likely be incorporated into future homebrew, a lot of that is in the pipeline.
-Stephen
Lockwood
Feb 12 2006, 02:09 PM
Dear Stephen,
We are doing our best to make it and we don't accept that language
captain_duck
Feb 15 2006, 12:33 PM
In another note:
http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/02/15/A webbrowser for the DS is already being made by the great guys at opera
davos1
Feb 16 2006, 04:42 AM
But then you have to buy it!!!
Shibathedog
Feb 16 2006, 04:47 AM
i am completley lost as to whats going on in this topic
infernoDS
Feb 16 2006, 06:56 AM
So... You buy games as well don't you? I do agree that if they'd put a browser for the full price in the shops I'd be a bit disappointed.
Pointless
Feb 16 2006, 07:12 AM

i was going to start a html parser and a renderer, but... i'll just wait for opera xD
QUOTE (davos1 @ Feb 16 2006, 01:42 AM)
But then you have to buy it!!!
davos1
Feb 16 2006, 08:36 AM
No! I've already spwnt alot of money running homebrew on my ds. Also sgstair has spent alot of time to build a TCP library for the ds and now it will go to waste when everyone gets the opera crap!
melw
Feb 16 2006, 08:59 AM
QUOTE (davos1 @ Feb 16 2006, 11:36 AM)
No! I've already spwnt alot of money running homebrew on my ds. Also sgstair has spent alot of time to build a TCP library for the ds and now it will go to waste when everyone gets the opera crap!
It's just nice to have a good commercial browser available. Not sure if I'm willing to spend money on it - have to first see how it's going to look like and what the final price is.
Otherwise, there's lots of room for homebrew wifi applications - no official instant messenger apps, irc clients, email clients etc. have been announced. And not to mention having multiplayer possibility also for homebrew games.
captain_duck
Feb 17 2006, 03:38 AM
Its not like sgstair did all his work just so someone could make a browser. Hell no its for tons of things like internet playable homebrew games, or internet chat, and those remote access programs (or he just did it for the bounty

)
And about buying it, well. The browser will most likely be released on a normal cart just like a game. And so it will probably dumped as a rom the day it comes out.
BlueBlue
Feb 17 2006, 04:31 AM
Well, it is also supposed to come with additional memory for the gba slot.
Warlord698
Feb 17 2006, 09:54 AM
that would have to be a big must, watch somebody patch after it comes out where you can use a GBAMP or whatever for the mem after that

up to 8GB of space
davos1
Feb 18 2006, 03:52 AM
But I think the Opera browser will be crap!
Warlord698
Feb 18 2006, 05:17 AM
though it's better than nothing isn't it
God knows I would die to have Firefox on it instead
captain_duck
Feb 18 2006, 08:13 AM
The opera browser will rock. Opera has allways been just as good, if not better then firefox, and they have MUCH more experience programming for small-display devices like telephones and PDA's. Were really lucky that opera is building the browser
Warlord698
Feb 18 2006, 11:29 AM
yet since firefox has all the USER made plug-ins you can personalize to limitless proportions with a great variety of options
sgstair
Feb 18 2006, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (Warlord698 @ Feb 18 2006, 06:29 AM)
yet since firefox has all the USER made plug-ins you can personalize to limitless proportions with a great variety of options
Don't be stupid, like firefox on DS would have user plugins?
Firefox is far too slow, bloated, memory-intensive, and close-mindedly designed to work on a limited system like the DS. Opera is a great browser and I'm quite glad to see it used on the DS.
-Stephen
tssf
Feb 18 2006, 08:32 PM
I for one hope someone will still work on a homebrewn browser. As good as Opera DS will be, it will not have Flash, Java or PDF support. You also can't play any music or what not downloaded from it..So, there's still room for a home brewn web browser.
Sintax
Feb 19 2006, 02:41 AM
What makes you think a homebrew browser would have that stuff? A browser by itself is pushing the DS's limits.
davos1
Feb 19 2006, 08:49 PM
How is a browser pushing the limits? PointyRemote or Win2DS can already be used as a makeshift internet browser! Flash and PDF wont be that hard to implement!
Sintax
Feb 19 2006, 11:52 PM
Because those programs just recieve screenshots and request data from a server, so there's a computer in the middle doing all the work. Take that computer away and you leave all the work to the DS, which only has 4 MB of RAM. I know FireFox is a bad example, but it is using 24MB just viewing this page. There is a demo of a Flash interpreter out there for the DS which runs OK, but you'll never get that together with a browser for the functionality you want. Bottom line is that the DS really wasn't made for applications.
memyselfandi
Feb 20 2006, 02:07 AM
Well, the opera DS browser will use a ram extansion that will allow it to do more

and with cards like the supercard or M3, we can do what the opera browser does AND more because we would have the 32MB ram and the storage capabilities! The opportunities are endless(not really

)
Warlord698
Feb 20 2006, 03:08 AM
he does make a good point
davos1
Feb 20 2006, 04:40 AM
Exactly! The supercard, M3 and flashcards got 32MB of SRAM that the program can use!
Warlord698
Feb 20 2006, 07:13 AM
then how the applications of firefox could be toned down a bit, yet still be used, ending out using less RAM
fischju
Feb 20 2006, 03:36 PM
ok. the ram gba cartridge is in the gba slot so you cant run homebrew with it inserted. most cf's or sd's arnt nearly fast enough to be used a ram if you convinced the browser that the official cart was inserted instead of your M3 or GBAMP
Warlord698
Feb 20 2006, 11:55 PM
the M3 would be easier than the GBAMP since it has it's cooshy bit of ram on it
fischju
Feb 21 2006, 12:47 AM
actually, trying to use the M3 ram and the cart in it as program ram would be harder that just using the cart as ram
Warlord698
Feb 22 2006, 12:17 AM
but wouldn't you be able to use the RAM on the M3 as the Program RAM, and the Cart for files, Cookies, and such
davos1
Feb 23 2006, 04:42 AM
QUOTE (Warlord698 @ Feb 22 2006, 10:17 AM)
but wouldn't you be able to use the RAM on the M3 as the Program RAM, and the Cart for files, Cookies, and such
Thats a good idea Warlord! But I dont think anyone will build this program!
EDIT:Just remembered! If anyone is going to make this, they could also include an rss reader!
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