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Posted by: suvo Jun 3 2005, 07:12 AM
well i think its a fact that every 1 likes the layout of the emu , and how its set out but its also a fact its not the greatest neogeo emulater ever made but anyways here is the last ever neorageX ever made
it was a great emu , some of u may have it but it plays the latest game's so enjoy ppl , and i uploaded it on fileshare.de , have fun....
oldschool
http://rapidshare.de/files/2144820/neoragex48.zip.html
Mod edit: URL fixed.
Posted by: Agozer Jun 3 2005, 11:16 AM
I don't think that 's the latest. The Latest one is 4.ab
Posted by: suvo Jun 3 2005, 12:27 PM
aight, sorry but all i know that this 1 plays svc:chaos , kof 2004 , kof 2003 , mslug 5 , mslug 4 , samari showdown 5 and u know the rest
Posted by: Agozer Jun 3 2005, 01:45 PM
Well, NeoRAGEx runs almost any decrypted Neo-Geo set that has protections removed, even if the game doesn't have an entry in the gamelist.
It just so happens that the NRX hacks from the EGCG Team have more things in the than justgamelist additions, making certain games playable that weren't playable in the official versions.
So far, only a few games are not playable in the official versions:
* Samurai Spirits Zero (Bank Error in official, but can be made playable by using a patch)
* Samurai Spirits Zero Special (see above, might have been fixed with the new P1, haven't tested)
* Garou: MotW - Decrypted, non-proto (does not work right in official, otherwise excellent in EGCG)
* King of Fighters 2003 (don't remember, might work in official)
* Metal Slug 5 (might work in official)
* SNK Vs. Capcom Chaos (Doesn't work in official, cart ID wrong; freeze)
* Hacks (Haven't tested in official, don't care)
Posted by: NeoRAGERx Jun 4 2005, 11:33 PM
4ab is a hack by some spanish dude and nothing is new just the b
Posted by: Spiffy Jun 4 2005, 11:38 PM
i have the nrx v4.ab games such kof2k3, svc:chaos, ss5sp works flawlessly thou i recommend nebula
Posted by: NeoRAGERx Jun 5 2005, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (Spiffy @ Jun 5 2005, 02:38 AM)
i have the nrx v4.ab games such kof2k3, svc:chaos, ss5sp works flawlessly thou i recommend nebula

those games work flawlessly in 4.a too...that was my point
Posted by: James Jun 5 2005, 08:38 PM
If you use a low end PC. Then FBA is a good emu for neogeo games.
Posted by: suvo Jun 5 2005, 09:34 PM
heh my pc is far way from a low pc , mines a machine cause i built it myself
6600 GT + geforce
2058 RAM
PrO+ sound
200 Gb hardive
Posted by: Bobdrakke Jun 6 2005, 01:27 AM
"If you a low end PC. Then FBA is a good emu for neogeo games."
James don't forget about kawaks
Posted by: James Jun 6 2005, 02:18 AM
QUOTE (suvo @ Jun 6 2005, 07:34 AM)
heh my pc is far way from a low pc , mines a machine cause i built it myself
6600 GT + geforce
2058 RAM
PrO+ sound
200 Gb hardive

Well why are useing NRX for when there much better emu's for neogeo games ? FBA is way better than NRX anyway even Kawaks , Mame , Nebula are better than NRX

In most cases your video card or Audio will not make emulation better.
Its CPU power that matters.
Posted by: suvo Jun 6 2005, 06:20 AM
im not using neorageX , i just used to use it ages ago i use kawaks hacked version
Posted by: James Jun 6 2005, 07:52 AM
Ok you use hacked emu's. I will use my own build of Mame ( Which is not hacked
)
Posted by: suvo Jun 6 2005, 07:57 AM
i would use your emu , but i dont have it therefore that means i cannot use it which means i would like it but i cant like it cause i dont have it
Posted by: K`dash Jun 6 2005, 08:46 AM
Too bad I have utter hate for Mame.
Posted by: Darken Jun 6 2005, 09:10 AM
Mame Need fast cpu big ram so I don`t use it...while Neoragex can even run under p2 so it`s the recomanded
Posted by: suvo Jun 6 2005, 09:17 AM
so i have 2gb of ram , it would run smooth as a babies behind
Posted by: Agozer Jun 6 2005, 10:33 AM
QUOTE (Darken @ Jun 6 2005, 12:10 PM)
Mame Need fast cpu big ram so I don`t use it...while Neoragex can even run under p2 so it`s the recomanded
Heh. NeoRAGEx can run on a Pentium 166Mhz with 32MB RAM with no sweat.
Posted by: NeoRAGERx Jun 6 2005, 11:42 AM
yeah kawaks is my other fave emu...as for nebula i don't like it...
Posted by: James Jun 6 2005, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Jun 6 2005, 08:33 PM)
QUOTE (Darken @ Jun 6 2005, 12:10 PM)
Mame Need fast cpu big ram so I don`t use it...while Neoragex can even run under p2 so it`s the recomanded
Heh. NeoRAGEx can run on a Pentium 166Mhz with 32MB RAM with no sweat.

But the emulation is far from being perfect though.
Posted by: GryphonKlaw Jun 6 2005, 05:32 PM
I'm becoming more and more like James when it comes to emulation. I'm tired of playing the games so now I prefer accurarcy.
Posted by: NeoRAGERx Jun 6 2005, 07:21 PM
If you want perfection then emulation isn't the answer...play the real thing...nothing can beat that...
Posted by: James Jun 6 2005, 09:32 PM
QUOTE (NeoRAGERx @ Jun 7 2005, 05:21 AM)
If you want perfection then emulation isn't the answer...play the real thing...nothing can beat that...
Yes thats why I own an Arcade machine.
Posted by: Agozer Jun 6 2005, 09:38 PM
QUOTE (James @ Jun 7 2005, 12:32 AM)
QUOTE (NeoRAGERx @ Jun 7 2005, 05:21 AM)
If you want perfection then emulation isn't the answer...play the real thing...nothing can beat that...
Yes thats why I own an Arcade machine.

I remember you getting it, but I don't remember what games you bought with it...
Posted by: suvo Jun 7 2005, 06:00 AM
go on www.ebay.com.au , u can buy stuff like that. if u have money but i guess u can just download roms
Posted by: James Jun 7 2005, 07:04 AM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Jun 7 2005, 07:38 AM)
I remember you getting it, but I don't remember what games you bought with it...
Bootleg version of galaga ( Jamma ) , Jamma PCB Bad dudes Vs dragonninja , Bootleg version of pacman ( Jamma ).
One slot MVS unit. with SNK Vs Capcom
Many other Game boards. But there not working.
Posted by: NeoRAGERx Jun 7 2005, 01:27 PM
I got some arcade machines near me and there is an atomiswave too
what you have to say about that huh ?
Posted by: refuze2looze Jun 13 2005, 03:57 PM
anybody have any idea what emulator i can use to play samurai showdown 5 and snk vs capcom chaos on GNU/Linux?
Posted by: Agozer Jun 13 2005, 05:29 PM
Try GnGeo. Google it or check http://www.zophar.net. NeoRAGEx is Windows only.
Posted by: James Jun 13 2005, 07:39 PM
QUOTE (NeoRAGERx @ Jun 7 2005, 11:27 PM)
I got some arcade machines near me and there is an atomiswave too

what you have to say about that huh ?

Yeah

Mine is in my lounge room

.
Posted by: N3oGhost Jun 14 2005, 03:29 AM
QUOTE (James @ Jun 13 2005, 01:39 PM)
QUOTE (NeoRAGERx @ Jun 7 2005, 11:27 PM)
I got some arcade machines near me and there is an atomiswave too

what you have to say about that huh ?

Yeah

Mine is in my lounge room

.
Aint it cool?
Posted by: refuze2looze Jun 16 2005, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Jun 13 2005, 08:29 PM)
Try GnGeo. Google it or check http://www.zophar.net. NeoRAGEx is Windows only.
does GnGeo run samurai showdown 5 special and svc chaos and all of the other new roms? i don't think it does.. anyhow GnGeo definately does not work well.. i can't get any rom to load probably because i'm not configuring it properly because i can't find any instructions on how to configure it. i've tried frontends for it but there doesn't seem to be any good ones. perhaps if i spend more time trying i will eventually manage to configure it properly, but i am pretty sure it doesn't support any of the new roms anyways.
so instead i found the MAME drivers to run these roms and compiled them into the latest Xmame (the *nix port of MAME) and now i have xmame with support for these roms.
now my problem is that i cannot find the right romset for these drivers. these drivers require that the romsets contain *.bin files and i have searched everywhere and can only find romsets for samurai showdown 5 sp, mslug5, kof2003, and svc chaos where all of the files are *.rom
Posted by: Agozer Jun 16 2005, 10:09 PM
I wouldn't know, since I don't use Linux or any UNIX-based operating systems. I just gave an alternative. True, Linux' emulators aren't that good compared to the Windows ones.
You could just rename your.rom files to.bin files manually. Of course, those sets with the ROM extension are usually dedcrypted sets.
Posted by: refuze2looze Jun 16 2005, 11:00 PM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Jun 17 2005, 01:09 AM)
I wouldn't know, since I don't use Linux or any UNIX-based operating systems. I just gave an alternative. True, Linux' emulators aren't that good compared to the Windows ones.
You could just rename your.rom files to.bin files manually. Of course, those sets with the ROM extension are usually dedcrypted sets.
yeah i tried renaming it and it didn't work ofcourse.
renaming the files don't do any good anyways because mame identifies roms based on their CRC not their file names.
however let me get this straight:.bin is usually encrypted and.rom is usually decrypted?
so the encrypted ones require the emulator to decrypt them while decrypted ones simply require the emulator to run them? if this is the case i can probably get the roms to run without the drivers.. i want to clear this all up first however (takes a while to compile)
also, if i am correct, why are encrypted romsets much larger than decrypted ones? it would seem to me it should be the other way around..
Posted by: Agozer Jun 17 2005, 12:20 AM
Yes, decrypted are usually ROM and encrypted are usually BIN... or rather, that how it used to be at least. The newer romsets are usually without a shadow of a doubt BIN regardless of whether or not they are encrypted.
Encrypted sets are larger by nature becuse encrypted data does not compress at all (or compresses very poorly; either way).
And yes, the emulator needs to decrypt the encypted sets before it can run them.
Posted by: refuze2looze Jun 17 2005, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (Agozer @ Jun 17 2005, 03:20 AM)
Yes, decrypted are usually ROM and encrypted are usually BIN... or rather, that how it used to be at least. The newer romsets are usually without a shadow of a doubt BIN regardless of whether or not they are encrypted.
Encrypted sets are larger by nature becuse encrypted data does not compress at all (or compresses very poorly; either way).
And yes, the emulator needs to decrypt the encypted sets before it can run them.
thanks for the info it was helpful, now i understand what's going on here
but i don't see me getting this to work.. along with CRCs i also need SHA1 codes, memory address locations, rom regions, and a bunch of stuff. i tried just changing the names of the files and CRCs from the driver for the encrypted version but ofcourse that didn't work. also there are some files that are different filenames.
i suppose my best bet is finding the encrypted romsets for which i have the drivers.. but i've looked everywhere already =/
i guess i can try getting gngeo to play them...
Posted by: Agozer Jun 17 2005, 03:08 PM
Yeah, MAME requires quite a bit of information if you plan on writing your own custom drivers for your custom MAME build... This is why I find Kawaks/Nebula Loader to be easier, since you don't need to worry about SHA1, and the overall layout of the DATs is very simple compared to MAME drivers.
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